Need urgent advice over Tenancy/Neighbours

jamie11

AnxiousTenant wrote: »

Your last sentence well I don't know what to say to that other than next time it could be a baby.

Regarding the dog issue, we were given permission to have the two dogs prior to moving in I have an email as proof! However the neighbour only had permission for one not two.

As far as the gas issue is concerned there is two gas heaters on the flat one in the living room and one in the bedroom neither have worked since we've been there!

P.S a bucket of water and other things did not succeed in getting it off! Hence why I had to use force to stop it killing my dog and that's something I don't regret.

Ah well, that's me told then!

By the way, did you try hitting it with the bucket?

terryw

AnxiousTenant wrote: »

We haven't officially left, we are just in and out and trying to stay away and we are staying with different friends and family right now but we are waiting to see what the landlord says when he comes back to us which he will do very soon, I do hope we can reach an agreement as that would be in the best interests of us and him so he can let the property out to someone else.

Not quite. It is in your interests for the landlord to agree an early surrender but not in his as he will have the bother and expense of finding new tenants. It might help if you offered to contribute towards his expense.

Regarding the gas fires - do you have central heating or any other form of heating?

AnxiousTenant

terryw wrote: »

Not quite. It is in your interests for the landlord to agree an early surrender but not in his as he will have the bother and expense of finding new tenants. It might help if you offered to contribute towards his expense.

Regarding the gas fires - do you have central heating or any other form of heating?

We don't have any alternative heating in the property.

I don't think the landlord will agree to an early surrender at all but it's something we will keep trying to do as we are genuine reasonable people.

Mojisola

AnxiousTenant wrote: »

I don't want there to be any serious trouble or violence

The landlord seems as if he is siding with the dog owner he isn't sympathetic really put it that way! I'm extremely disappointed with his response.

The LL might be "siding" with the other tenants because he's also scared of what happen - both to him and his investment. I'm sure you can understand the position he's in.

AnxiousTenant

Mojisola wrote: »

The LL might be "siding" with the other tenants because he's also scared of what happen - both to him and his investment. I'm sure you can understand the position he's in.

What do you by he might be scared about what might happen to him?

I'd never use violence unless it was in self defence or if something happened to my partner.

Quite a lot of family members and some friends wanted to go round to the neighbours house but I told them unless something happens to me or my partner or unless we are attacked physically then I don't want anyone else getting involved, I'm not an aggressive person and to me violence isn't the solution at all.

I under about the investment but we haven't done anything to the property we have looked after it as we always would and I'm sure someone else would let it I just hope they don't have a dog.

Mojisola

AnxiousTenant wrote: »

What do you by he might be scared about what might happen to him?

Not scared of you - scared of the other tenants!

AnxiousTenant

Mojisola wrote: »

Not scared of you - scared of the other tenants!

Oh I see well yeah maybe I guess.

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I am sorry this has happened to you.

Having had my then puppy attacked, well if u've ever heard a dog scream for three quarters of an hour in sheer fright, u'd be less inclined to tell the owner to grow up (my puppy had his neck bitten within 2 mm of his windpipe).., and yes, he really did scream solidly and was in a complete state for a couple of months. I also have two children, and it was exactly the same as if they'd been injured.., I felt emotionally, exactly the same. There was no difference. There is no protection against dog on dog attacks though, as I and this op discovered, unless the dog is a pit bull. Legally there is supposed to be.., but in reality in our case, CPS wouldn't prosecute. We lost all hope of financial resitution when taking this case forward for police prosecution because we wanted the attacking dog at least assessed because of the risk to children/humans. The money wasn't as important as safety. Our dog is now nearly 10 months old and completely recovered psychologically and physically. The worry and stress the situation caused was enormous though. For a week we spent more time at the vets than at home.., and don't ask about the cost.

We couldn't even make sure the dog was muzzled when out of the home.

So I for one sympathise totally with the OP.., but also recognise there is almost no chance of relieving the situation. The best they can hope for is either the landlord or they getting another tenant in (with the landlord's permission if they search for another tenant, it might be more certain than asking the landlord to do it, as after all, the landlord will eventually get his rent whether he finds another tenant or not I'm afraid as the OP has a tenancy agreement that says they will pay the rent for a certain period regardless).

I'm afraid the landlord is not responsible for the behaviour of the neighbours or their dogs.., however hard u fight this, it doesn't matter, you won't win. The most you can do is take the neighbour to court via civil action (which will incur a cost), with no certainty you will win. Then you will have to get any money awarded off them, and that sounds like it won't be easy. And you'll only get money, nothing can give you back the feeling of security and safety you want. So think about this in terms of how do you get what u want at minimum cost to yourselves.

Its not right, but I'm afraid it is what will happen. The only thing the tenant can do now is minimise their losses.

AnxiousTenant

Thanks for your post, safety is much more important over money but my partner refuses to even consider remaining at the property for even more than a week or two! Unfortunately as the dog owner has shirked responsibility, tries to pass the blame onto us despite our dogs being on leads and theirs not and the fact that ours was attacked as soon as it went out if the door totally unprovoked the owner then has the nerve to say I pushed her and punched her dog in the head so the situation is escalating more and more! I certainly didn't push her I have 2 witnesses to back me up on that too so I'm not worried about that just angry that the allegation has been made! I certainly did use force against the dog but only after trying everything else to get the dog off like throwing water on it and trying to calmly drag it off but I don't regret doing it to save my dogs life.

Safety is extremely important and if you don't feel safe in your own home then it's not going to work! We will be leaving regardless, unfortunately if the landlord refuses an early surrender they will have to pursue us through the courts as we don't really have any other option.

Everyone I've spoken to about it In my family and all my friends have said themselves its the best and safest option to leave the property.

The landlord certainly has some responsibility especially when they have told the dog owner to keep the dogs on leads and also as they only gave permission for one dog not two to live there?

anselld

AnxiousTenant wrote: »

The landlord certainly has some responsibility especially when they have told the dog owner to keep the dogs on leads and also as they only gave permission for one dog not two to live there?

Is this still the question? As stated several times the Landlord has no responsibility here. You need to get your head round that fact and understand that you are negotiating early surrender and relying on good will from the Landlord to release you from your contract.