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  • neas
    neas Posts: 3,801 Forumite
    When I had a similar experience of a drunk banging the outside door because it didn't have dampened.. he would shout aggressively at my wife.


    When he did it to I challenged him as that's one way of doing it. I told him he didn't b scare me and I invited him outside. Suffice to say he shut up from then on. If someone is at your door aggressively if you do not fight you will be bullied forever more.

    Bullies are usually cowardly and not that good at fighting... they just pick on people they assume won't fight back.

    I think you.missed the opportunity to defend yourself physically. Think of a school bully. If you fight back first thene he went do it again.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    neas wrote: »
    When I had a similar experience of a drunk banging the outside door because it didn't have dampened.. he would shout aggressively at my wife.


    When he did it to I challenged him as that's one way of doing it. I told him he didn't b scare me and I invited him outside. Suffice to say he shut up from then on. If someone is at your door aggressively if you do not fight you will be bullied forever more.

    Bullies are usually cowardly and not that good at fighting... they just pick on people they assume won't fight back.

    I think you.missed the opportunity to defend yourself physically. Think of a school bully. If you fight back first thene he went do it again.

    Not everyone is physically up to fighting back and I certainly wouldn't put any bets on winning in a set-to with two dogs.
  • "Fight back physically" is terrible advice if you don't know the person well enough to know how they will respond. It's total potluck whether this is someone who will back down or someone who will pull a knife on you. Is it really worth the risk?
  • AnxiousTenant
    AnxiousTenant Posts: 19 Forumite
    I stand by removing ourselves from the property, I think it was the best and most sensible thing to do.

    I could have got physical if I wanted to and I have an extremely large family here and they are all fuming and they wanted to get involved but I said I don't want there to be any serious trouble or violence plus as someone said above is it really worth the risk of someone pulling a knife in you? I don't think so.

    The landlord seems as if he is siding with the dog owner he isn't sympathetic really put it that way! I'm extremely disappointed with his response.

    At the end of the day we wanted a nice quiet life! And you don't expect to get so much trouble within 2 weeks of moving in somewhere!

    Seeing as my dogs are scared stiff living there now and my partner is mentally scarred and doesn't wish to remain there I have acted on their wishes plus I'm not totally comfortable being there myself as I feel it will escalate into something more serious and I'd rather not take the chance.

    I won't get my hopes up of being allowed an early surrender of the tenancy but regardless of that we will be moving elsewhere a.s.a.p
  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    OK, if you are determined to leave the property, at least let the landlord know in writing and obtain his response in writing so that he may possibly attempt to relet and possibly mitigate his loss. Without knowing for definite that you have left, he is on very dicey grounds re-entering the property and may not be willing to do this.

    As previously advised you are still responsible for the rent until the end of the tenancy and negotiation is worth a try even if you think this is fultile.

    Your opinion about the landlord not being being sympathetic may be true but does not affect the legal relationship between you.

    .
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    You say the neighbour should only have one dog but has two, but then you say you have two yourself. Do the tenancy agreements of either of you allow dogs?

    Then you put yourself in danger by tackling a vicious dog to stop it mauling yours, did you stop to consider how dangerous that was?
    (tip) a bucket of water would have stopped the attack dead.

    The best part of your rambling OP is that you left it till the last sentence to mention the lack of gas supply, a proper complaint

    I'm not unsympathetic to your dog but it's a dog, not a baby. Grow up.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    jamie11 wrote: »
    ...
    The best part of your rambling OP is that you left it till the last sentence to mention the lack of gas supply, a proper complaint

    ...
    Indeed. But the gas seems to be a red herring.

    OP has ignored questions about the cause of the lack of gas, and the effect of the lack of gas, despite posting further on the dog issue.

    Clearly the gas problem was just something to throw in as supporting the "my landlord is useless so I can end the tenancy" claim.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    OP asks for advice.
    Advice given.
    OP doesn't like the advice.

    Thread closed.
  • AnxiousTenant
    AnxiousTenant Posts: 19 Forumite
    jamie11 wrote: »
    You say the neighbour should only have one dog but has two, but then you say you have two yourself. Do the tenancy agreements of either of you allow dogs?

    Then you put yourself in danger by tackling a vicious dog to stop it mauling yours, did you stop to consider how dangerous that was?
    (tip) a bucket of water would have stopped the attack dead.

    The best part of your rambling OP is that you left it till the last sentence to mention the lack of gas supply, a proper complaint

    I'm not unsympathetic to your dog but it's a dog, not a baby. Grow up.

    Your last sentence well I don't know what to say to that other than next time it could be a baby.

    Regarding the dog issue, we were given permission to have the two dogs prior to moving in I have an email as proof! However the neighbour only had permission for one not two.

    As far as the gas issue is concerned there is two gas heaters on the flat one in the living room and one in the bedroom neither have worked since we've been there!

    P.S a bucket of water and other things did not succeed in getting it off! Hence why I had to use force to stop it killing my dog and that's something I don't regret.
  • AnxiousTenant
    AnxiousTenant Posts: 19 Forumite
    terryw wrote: »
    OK, if you are determined to leave the property, at least let the landlord know in writing and obtain his response in writing so that he may possibly attempt to relet and possibly mitigate his loss. Without knowing for definite that you have left, he is on very dicey grounds re-entering the property and may not be willing to do this.

    As previously advised you are still responsible for the rent until the end of the tenancy and negotiation is worth a try even if you think this is fultile.

    Your opinion about the landlord not being being sympathetic may be true but does not affect the legal relationship between you.

    .

    We haven't officially left, we are just in and out and trying to stay away and we are staying with different friends and family right now but we are waiting to see what the landlord says when he comes back to us which he will do very soon, I do hope we can reach an agreement as that would be in the best interests of us and him so he can let the property out to someone else.
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