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housing benefit reduction. a solution but the council is blocking it!

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  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,999 Forumite
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    GlasweJen wrote: »
    I can't understand how nanny can be allocated this flat before bidding has started and also know so much about the person who was initially allocated it. If I was in the situation where someone was told personal information about who won a property and why I would be spitting bullets at the council.

    i wasnt offered it before bidding started. bidding closed on the monday and i was offered it the following wefdnesday after bidding had closed on the sunnday.
  • nannytone_2
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    edited 10 May 2013 at 6:06PM
    ab.da54 wrote: »
    The issue is, from the OP, the flat was not open to bidding until the week beginning 06/05.

    Now, as the 6th was a bank holiday and council staff do not work bank holidays, the flat would not have gone onto the bidding system until the Tuesday and would close on the Sunday.

    However, we are asked to believe that, on the 8th of May - two days after bidding opened and four days before bidding ends - nannytone was given the keys to her new flat. The story goes that the new tenant of the one bed was asked to take the two bed - without even looking at it - and the one bed was then given to the OP.

    All this signed, sealed and done whilst the property was still up for bidding, giving someone else, who may have had higher priority than the young single employed man, no chance to even bid. Not only that, the man was given the property on the bank holiday Monday - a day when staff would not be working.

    Of course, the housing association have done all this because they want nannytone to have the one bed. They have broken data protection to tell her that the winning bidder was a single employed man who has no prior tenancy with the HA and that he willingly accepted the two bed, after accepting the one bed, without viewing any of it and clean as you like, nannytone has the keys, has signed the agreement within two days, even though the property is still up for bidding.

    The story changes once challenged and we are now led to believe that the previous tenant just abandoned the property, but hang on, when did the removal team go in to remove the furniture / items from the flat, which has now been abandoned, rather than the tenant simply giving up the property?

    Why did everything happen so quickly - the legal side of reclaiming the property, etcetera. In order to reclaim the property after abandonment, the HA would have to go to court and that takes more than a day or so. When did all that happen and why, if the HA were so desperate to move nannytone, did she only find out about this on the 3rd of May?

    nannytone has the keys, people have been in on her behalf and can start painting all whilst the property is still up for bidding. Amazing - and yet, despite how strange all this is, nannytone has no reason to lie and posters are asked not to look at the discrepancies, even though common sense says the series of events do not make sense.

    I have to wonder what about repairs that may need doing, what about the council's legal obligations to ensure bidding is done fairly and everyone having an equal right to bid on the property?

    We already know that, on the 3rd of May, the property was not open for bidding as it did not become vacant until the 4th - and this is according to the OP. She would have known if the property was already taking bids.

    Does she now have the property?

    It's possible, but not because of the biddig system - more likely the HA bypassed all of that and just gave her the property. Any other way does not make logical sense. A bidder would not be offered a property on the same day it became available to apply for.

    The other option is that the poster is being untruthful. There are certainly parts of this which do not make sense, especially when you are aware of how the bidding system works.

    Something doesn't sit right, whether or not nannytone has the flat. I don't think anyone can defend something which does not make sense and would love to hear how someone else finds that it does, given all the information supplied by nannytone.
    you are wrong. bidding was open from the 29th april/
    i dont unmderdstand how you think they allocated the flat toi me before it was classed as vacant.
    either you dont read the posts or you read what you want it to say

    what you believe or dont believe is ireelevant. but from the general tone of this thread, iyt seems that people dont like the fact that things have worked out for me.
    one word.

    TOUGH
  • neverdespairgirl
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    nannytone wrote: »
    you are wrong. bidding was open from the 29th april/
    i dont unmderdstand how you think they allocated the flat toi me before it was classed as vacant.
    either you dont read the posts or you read what you want it to say

    what you believe or dont believe is ireelevant. but from the general tone of this thread, iyt seems that people dont like the fact that things have worked out for me.
    one word.

    TOUGH

    But nanny, you said in your very first post that bidding hadn't opened, and that was in May!
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • nannytone_2
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    custardy wrote: »
    You realise the post you quoted has nothing to do with the reply you posted?

    in your opinion. dont be bitter because someone else is getting a better deal, according to your perception.

    trust me ... you wouldnt want my life
  • nannytone_2
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    And I'm sure those that you have shafted will be delighted by your moral support, while in all practical terms you ensure that their hardship continues. You can't have a conscience without a moral backbone, and you are devoid of that.

    Disgraceful hypocrisy.

    who have i shafted?


    yjr man that bid on the one bed that CHOAE to take the 2 bed insteaD?

    THE POOR OVERCROWDED FAMILY THAT refused MY FLAT BEFORE IT WAS OFFERED TO ME?
  • Dogger69
    Dogger69 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    so you dont look after yourself and your family first?
    if i dont look after myself who will?

    So your focus is not on all the other people that are far worse off than you? Finally we get some honesty from you!
  • ab.da54
    ab.da54 Posts: 4,381 Forumite
    But nanny, you said in your very first post that bidding hadn't opened, and that was in May!

    And this is where the confusion stems from because, in nannytone's own words, the bidding didn't open until the 6th of May yet she was given keys on the 8th.
    Dear Lord, I am calling upon you today for your divine guidance and help. I am in crisis and need a supporting hand to keep me on the right and just path. My mind is troubled but I will strive to keep it set on you, as your infinite wisdom will show me the way to a just and right resolution. Amen.
  • nannytone_2
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    but nanny, you said in your very first post that bidding hadn't opened, and that was in may!

    i didnt say that/ i was only aware that the flat had been reclassified when i6t was open for bids on the council website. Wjy else would i have expresse3d an interest if i still thought it was supported housing for young people?

    The council refused to withdraw it from bidding.
  • Dogger69
    Dogger69 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    today i became aware that one of the tenants of the social housing flats is moving out tomorrow, and that they are no longer exclusively for young people. the council will be putting them up for bids next week ( it's already on the board in the council office, but no bids will be accepted until the internet site is updated over the weekend)

    Posted on 3rd May. Seems pretty clear to me.
  • nannytone_2
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    dogger69 wrote: »
    so your focus is not on all the other people that are far worse off than you? Finally we get some honesty from you!

    so that means i should be struggling too?

    Everyone else had the opportunity to do whatr i did.
    I am very community minded... But dont be ridiculous... Cant sacrifice myself to make someone elses life easier

    i do morre than most, and fight the corner of people that are being treated unfairly. Doesnt mean i should live in a cardboard box
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