Bad Driving

**Patty**

johnnyreggae wrote: »

Yummy mummies on the school unable to control their 4x4s because (a) they can't drive and (b) they're busy texting

Bloke in a blue BMW estate this afternoon

By the look on his face, i think his suit will need a dry-clean

martinthebandit

1886 wrote: »

I think the reason is because as the road is fairly narrow they are worried about going on to the verge so drive in the middle, the problem with this is that they don't for some reason expect another vehicle to be on the same road.

I also get quite a few vehicles who don't get over enough expecting me to get over as it's narrow. What I do here is basically just come over towards them slightly, I'm driving a 3.5T van and could'nt care less if I knock their mirror off.

Another thing I notice a hell of alot is people who turn into a junction but when they do so they totally cut the corner off the junction and are on the wrong side of the road. This type of person is exactly the same as the one who drives in the middle of the road. One day I'll take somebody out who does this I sware, I won't be in the wrong and I have a dash cam to prove it

Well its nice (I suppose) for someone to actually admit they are a dangerous and inconsiderate driver.

I hope you are going to get yourself a few lessons now that you have admitted you have a problem.

gilbert_and_sullivan

Easy cure for this, buy an old 80 series Landcruiser with a wrap around bull bar on the front.

aardvaak

reeac wrote: »

I agree absolutely but it's not just the 4x4s, it's all kinds of cars and what gets me is that they get to school so early when collecting kids and then stay around for ages talking .. clearly got plenty of time so no need at all for all that speeding down the middle of the road.

These so called 'mothers' have got too much time on their hands in my opinion only have the big 4x4's as a so called status symbol - they stand around chatting only to try and out do the next prat - instead of a status symbol it just says look at me I'm a silly cow who has managed to push hubby out to pay for it.

Lum

Would need to see the road to make a fair assessment on this one. Got a Google streetview link?

I know when I used to commute through the lanes I'd do this as the road was rarely wide enough for two cars anyway. No point keeping over to one side when you won't be passing side by side so better to move out a bit and have a better chance of seeing (and being seen by) oncoming traffic.

Even in the parts where it is wide enough for two cars, many of them you could only do if you both drove with two wheels on the crumbling edge of the road, which no-one would reasonably do, so again may as well stick out.


If your road isn't like this then what you likely have is commuters who don't regularly drive the area and don't have a clue what they're doing. The lanes by me became incredibly dangerous once a building site cropped up at one end of them and they started filling with Transit van drivers who thought that the 60 limit on these roads was a target, even in the single track sections with high hedges.

aardvaak

Lum wrote: »

Would need to see the road to make a fair assessment on this one. Got a Google streetview link?

I know when I used to commute through the lanes I'd do this as the road was rarely wide enough for two cars anyway. No point keeping over to one side when you won't be passing side by side so better to move out a bit and have a better chance of seeing (and being seen by) oncoming traffic.

Even in the parts where it is wide enough for two cars, many of them you could only do if you both drove with two wheels on the crumbling edge of the road, which no-one would reasonably do, so again may as well stick out.


If your road is like this then what you likely have is commuters who don't regularly drive the area and don't have a clue what they're doing. The lanes by me became incredibly dangerous once a building site cropped up at one end of them and they started filling with Transit van drivers who thought that the 60 limit on these roads was a target, even in the single track sections with high hedges.

But what I was saying is things are fairly ok morning & mid day but changes at about 4-5pm

Lum

Like I said at the end (though with a now corrected typo), what you have there is commuters who don't drive such roads regularly and so don't know what they're doing.

Or it could just be the sheer numbers of people using that road at that time that makes it more noticeable.

aardvaak

Lum wrote: »

Like I said at the end (though with a now corrected typo), what you have there is commuters who don't drive such roads regularly and so don't know what they're doing.

Or it could just be the sheer numbers of people using that road at that time that makes it more noticeable.

If commuters why do they have to act like gits and not take care and be considerate?

Lum

aardvaak wrote: »

If commuters why do they have to act like gits and not take care and be considerate?

Just my own personal experience from my road warrior years. It seems that a lot of the people for whom a car is a tool that comes out at 8ish and gets them to work for 9 and back again at 5pm have a somewhat different attitude from those who do it for a living, or who drive for pleasure. Same applies to the school run.

Other times of day are much nicer. The people are much nicer and more considerate, even the stereotypically bad ones such as van or Audi drivers.

alastairq

If the unclassified road has no [and never had a] centre line marking, then who is to say exactly 'where' the centre of the road lies?

road width can vary enormously from one bit to the next.

As long as we meet each other, 'right-side-to-right-side', then there are no issues with using the entire carriageway, should it be 'clear & safe to do so'....and we as drivers/riders deem it necessary.


The 'story' is a little bit different if there is a centre line marking, however.

Where the problem lies, is with drivers fancying their abilities as being 'good' or 'better', than when they first passed their tests.....when in reality, all that has happened is , they have gained familiarity.

This is the problem of so-called 'advanced' driver training.

People hear things, see things, see others doing things, and think, 'that's a good idea'...but, as usual, they only have 'half the story'.

They get the idea it's ok to 'cut a corner'....but haven't seen the whole picture with such a process.

The same happens with apparently aggressive tailgating.

Folk have heard about 'moving to the 'overtaking' position'......but again, have only taken onboard, half the story....so, they stay glued to one's backside for several miles....wanting to overtake, but totally unable to find [or..more likely, think of finding] a suitable place to overtake.

I can tell when I'm following such drivers with 'half-baked' ideas.....[I deliver driver training for a living, so I'm used to observing others]....their road position alone says a lot!

Nothing wrong with using the road [or...with a centre line, one's own side of the road]....but there is a lot more to it than simply following the most appropriate line through a corner.




I am surprised those of you who sport dashboard cameras don't use them for more insurance claims?

Especially in the scenarios the OP posted?