Santander trying to steal £14,200 from me

dalesrider

Azelphur wrote: »

I do yes, It is the senders banks responsibility to authenticate them, either the account holder or the bank has been negligent, and it doesn't fall to me to bail people (or banks) out for their own error.

A look back has brought up these gems....

#29
I transfer the coins into bitbargain, but the bank transfer is made to me personally, the idea is that bitbargain can hold the bitcoins in escrow and resolve any disputes if anything goes wrong.

So why are Bitbargain not getting you your money back?

#78
stuff like this happens regularly

So due diligence is not strong in the bitcoin community then. Wonder why.....

Yet you then blame the bank of someone who has had their account hacked and money used.
Strange but people get phished all the time... Just because they do does not mean they should stand the loss, just the same as you should not. But as you used a Escrow service the buck should stop with them....

Funny but until the account holder calls the bank. Anyone making any transactions via the account are considered to be the account holder. That goes for ANY type of payment.
Strange but people complain when banks block payments due to security concerns....

Azelphur wrote: »

I meant in the context of online trading (ebay, gumtree, etc). Although I see no reason why this type of attack wouldn't work in person, either.

People get scammed on ebay & gumtree all the time. The ydo not get their money back.
Same as people who find they have been paid via a hacked paypal account end up losing both money and goods.

dalesrider

#78
stuff like this happens regularly

Given that you use a Escrow service. Perhaps it would be prudent of them to hold not only the bitcoins, but also the money and only release both after a safe period of say 30 days.
To ensure that both bitcoins and funds are from who they say they are.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Or you only say the funds have been recieved after a given period to ensure they are legal.

meer53

This type of fraud isn't limited to Bitcoin purchases, it happens every day, this doesn't prove anything really apart from the fact that an account was hacked and the OP was the loser.

JuicyJesus

Wait, hold on:

I do yes, It is the senders banks responsibility to authenticate them, either the account holder or the bank has been negligent, and it doesn't fall to me to bail people (or banks) out for their own error.

So if your account gets hacked because you got phished and I get the money, f*ck you I'm keeping it.

Brilliant.

nelly12

meer53 wrote: »

This type of fraud isn't limited to Bitcoin purchases, it happens every day, this doesn't prove anything really apart from the fact that an account was hacked and the OP was the loser.

You are quite correct. My comment was very specific to this threat in belittling the bitcoin argument as this has to a major consideration for anyone involved in these bits.

Anyways I hope the OP is currently writing his apology to the bank as we speak given the title of this thread. It's quite nice to see that those who called it fraud right at the very beginning were correct.

grumbler

nelly12 wrote: »

... it is of no interest to 99.99999999999% of the worlds population.

It is of interest to the OP and to the buyer. Even if there were only two of them , the world population would have to be 20000 billion, but it's less than 7 billion ATM.

:think:

I know formulas are not your cup of tea...

nelly12

grumbler wrote: »

It is of interest to the OP and to the buyer. Even if there were only two of them , the world population would have to be 20000 billion, but it's less than 7 billion ATM.

:think:

I know formulas are not your cup of tea...

I have a twitch!

nelly12

grumbler wrote: »

It is of interest to the OP and to the buyer. Even if there were only two of them , the world population would have to be 20000 billion, but it's less than 7 billion ATM.

:think:

I know formulas are not your cup of tea...

of course it is of interest to the buyer, he just got £7200 worth of bitcoins for free! Free! And we all know the OP won't get them back.

Even money the title of the OP's next thread is "FOS are in cahoots with Santander!"

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

has anyone else lost the will to live!

Hominu

meer53 wrote: »

This type of fraud isn't limited to Bitcoin purchases, it happens every day, this doesn't prove anything really apart from the fact that an account was hacked and the OP was the loser.

Of course the big difference is that once a Bitcoin transaction is performed, there is no way to reverse the transaction, by design. So if someone gets onto your PC and makes an unauthorised transaction, tough. If someone manages to steal your BC wallet, tough.

It seems like Bitcoin is a fraudsters paradise.

However, regardless of currency, it pays to be careful. I remember selling something on Ebay which the buyer paid for, I posted, then they claimed never to have received it. I provided proof and they lost.