Lazy and f3ckless young who use txt spk 2 apply 4 jbz

grizzly1911

wotsthat wrote: »

I've worked with all sorts of people - the 'it's not in my contract' mob come from all age groups.

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It isn't just confined to age as you point out.

I have worked with many older people that have been just as committed and put in just as many "effective" hours.


@Dev

Perhaps it is because youngsters are more eager to please and more easily led and manipulated.

Once you have been round the block a few times you can establish when you are been taken for a mug.

If people weren't treated like mugs then maybe they wouldn't act like one.

It may also be because they are a square peg in around hole due to poor a management decisions along the way - which weren't necessarily down to them.

I do accept that you will get less efficient people at any point in their career and that time served can be more of a handful.

fc123

Carl31 wrote: »

I was thinking the other day actually about the poor spelling i see on things like facebook

'Dat' used for 'that' or 'wiv' instead of 'with'. Are they genuine errors? Or some sort of slang type alternative?

I find it really interesting how written language is evolving especially around new technology...or because of it? Chicken/egg.

My DD pecking away at top speed on an iphone with her thumbs makes me smile....I can't do it. The use of symbols, mixing letters and their sounds to create new words is also interesting.

I remember glazing over @ school may years ago when we had to read poems etc in Ye Olde English and then went through them to translate the meaning.

I think my 'favourite' new words are the ones with 8 in...like m8, gr8 but I haven't read 'I 8 my dinner l8'. I don't get most of it

Abbrevations were the thing we used to get told off about years ago.....but many have become quite normal now...such as 'phone.

Having said that the CV's that I reject purely through how they are written are the ones on a word doc with wiggly lines under the typos /errors that are then sent out.

Norman_Castle

If I didn't want to work but was being told to apply for jobs or lose my benefits, I would put employers off by applying in text. Just a thought innit.

andy.m_2

It is the job of the youthful generation to
a) try to rebel and upset the previous generation
b) implant their own stamp on the world

Each generation has done it previously and every one to come will do the same.
It is well documented about how Cockney Rhyming slang horrified the parents of the day, yet now it is considered quaint and is even in danger of dying out.

That said, I do hate the !!!!!!!isation of our beautiful language and resent those who willingly are giving it up.
I also hate (yes I know that hate is a very strong verb but it is true) the instant response from anybody pulled up about spelling that they are mildly dyslexic. Dyslexia is a recognised and diagnosable affliction, it is not an excuse for lazy spelling.

ruggedtoast

A generation ago most of these people who are, basically working class, would have been applying for jobs in manufacturing and industry, and would never have had to complete anything other than an application form.

Suddenly we have a giant faux middle class of people working minimum wage on temporary contracts who are all supposed to be 'qualified', and employers complain they can't get the staff.

No, you can't get the staff, because you aren't offering anything.

Pay a proper salary with decent benefits and the quality of CVs will probably improve; oh right I forgot - you don't have to because of Eastern Europe, so in the meantime British youngsters will keep being unemployed and vilified for not 'pulling their socks up'.

Generali

ruggedtoast wrote: »

A generation ago most of these people who are, basically working class, would have been applying for jobs in manufacturing and industry, and would never have had to complete anything other than an application form.

Suddenly we have a giant faux middle class of people working minimum wage on temporary contracts who are all supposed to be 'qualified', and employers complain they can't get the staff.

No, you can't get the staff, because you aren't offering anything.

Pay a proper salary with decent benefits and the quality of CVs will probably improve; oh right I forgot - you don't have to because of Eastern Europe, so in the meantime British youngsters will keep being unemployed and vilified for not 'pulling their socks up'.

You may mock but a lot of people start out in those sorts of jobs.

The first job I had in banking paid £5.50/hr doing data entry as a temp. It was a terrible job, boring and repetitive with the only relief from the boredom being an occasional shellacking for having made an expensive typo. That was in 1995 and it was a terrible wage then and would be a terrible wage today.

In 2014 my target is to gross £100,000 and without that start there is no way I'd be here now.

People sneer at 'bad jobs' but everyone has to start somewhere. Gordon Ramsey and Jamie Oliver were once kitchen hands.

quantic

ruggedtoast wrote: »

A generation ago most of these people who are, basically working class, would have been applying for jobs in manufacturing and industry, and would never have had to complete anything other than an application form.

Suddenly we have a giant faux middle class of people working minimum wage on temporary contracts who are all supposed to be 'qualified', and employers complain they can't get the staff.

No, you can't get the staff, because you aren't offering anything.

Pay a proper salary with decent benefits and the quality of CVs will probably improve; oh right I forgot - you don't have to because of Eastern Europe, so in the meantime British youngsters will keep being unemployed and vilified for not 'pulling their socks up'.

This ^^

Always amazes me when my previous employer would happily employ people on a lower wage who were completely incapable - they would require constant attention, and would inevitably leave or go on the sick for stress at great cost, rather than just paying a decent wage and benefits package to begin with!

neverdespairgirl

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

I once got an email application that started "Hi!". At the other end of the scale are the excessively ornate letters specific to Indian applicants: "Dear Esteemed Sir, I most respectfully beg you to consider my humble application".

I get some briefs from an Indian solicitor who always ends his instructions with the sentence:

Madam learned counsel is therefore humbly requested to consider our application for her requested and valuable opinion at her convenience, and do the needful.

grizzly1911

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I get some briefs from an Indian solicitor who always ends his instructions with the sentence:

Madam learned counsel is therefore humbly requested to consider our application for her requested and valuable opinion at her convenience, and do the needful.

I placed a deposit with a UK arm of an Indian bank at the end of last year and the service was second to none at the front end. Back end wasn't to bad either, interesting web site couched in the style you suggest..

The manager, in the old style, even offered me tea and a biscuit from a tin.

Percy1983

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