Bettering myself is better for my ex!

Plongeur

1. I will be paying about £15-18,000 a year. You can argue amongst yourselves if that it too much money to support 1 child for a year, but many families live on that amount.

2. My ex lives about 20 miles up the road from me. I know her exact circumstances. Currently unemployed, with a second child, and going through a divorce.

3. The current CSA cap is based net earnings up to £2000 per week.

4. Clearingout. Again you're reading what you want to read, not what I've posted. I'm more than happy to provide anything and everything for my son, however I'm not happy to pay for my ex to have a subsidised lifestyle at my expense.

shoe*diva79

Plongeur wrote: »

1. I will be paying about £15-18,000 a year. You can argue amongst yourselves if that it too much money to support 1 child for a year, but many families live on that amount.

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2. My ex lives about 20 miles up the road from me. I know her exact circumstances. Currently unemployed, with a second child, and going through a divorce.

3. The current CSA cap is based net earnings up to £2000 per week.

4. Clearingout. Again you're reading what you want to read, not what I've posted. I'm more than happy to provide anything and everything for my son, however I'm not happy to pay for my ex to have a subsidised lifestyle at my expense.

1. No family lives on that amount. It would be topped up with tax credits, child benefit, housing benefit etc so the true figure would be much higher.

2. Her circumstances do not matter. NRP are liable to currently pay 15% of net income. She will be sourcing income from other means that help her sustain whatever lifestyle she is living.

3. I dont know what the cap is, but assuming you pay £15000 per yeear at 15% of your net, it sounds well and truly that you earn in excess of £100k after deductions.

4. Get over it. Unless you come to a private arrangement with your ex, you will have to continue paying what you currently are.

In addition, the suggestion that you bulk up your pension can have a detrimental affect on you in 2 ways;

Firstly, your ex could apply for a variation becauseof diversion of income to avoid paying CM

And secondly, when/if you get moved over to the new scheme, you will have to pay around 12% of your GROSS pay.

DUTR

The cap last time I looked was £3k per week.
Much as I feel the OP is trolling, he raises some good points, BUT on the defence some of the attacks are correct too, at £18k CS that would be based on a net pay of £2307 per week, possible but obviously above average wages, however after the £346 CS that still leaves plenty of disposable income, so I'm not sure why the OP is having a 'moan' .
On a social scale though I feel somebody earning that amount would end up with somebody earning a similar amount , unless of course the the OP is a well known movie star and the film being Pretty Woman.

kevin137

So the government pays for someone on benefits, housing unemployment etc, yet they can receive over £350 a week in CS and it doesn't affect the benefit...

Tell me why that is right...!!!

Regardless of what the OP's situation is, and how much he pays, it is WRONG that the government foot the bill for the living situation of this PWC...!!! Especially if they are in fact in receipt of that much child support...

365days

shoe*diva79 wrote: »

1. No family lives on that amount. It would be topped up with tax credits, child benefit, housing benefit etc so the true figure would be much higher.
I DO and pay a mortgage (interest only). Not everyone on low income gets housing benefit, some are struggling on trying to keep their houses. If I was getting this from my ex, tax free, I would be literally laughing all the way to the bank.

365days

kevin137 wrote: »

So the government pays for someone on benefits, housing unemployment etc, yet they can receive over £350 a week in CS and it doesn't affect the benefit...

Tell me why that is right...!!!

Regardless of what the OP's situation is, and how much he pays, it is WRONG that the government foot the bill for the living situation of this PWC...!!! Especially if they are in fact in receipt of that much child support...

I agree totally here. I recieve less than £15 a week in CM. I am in a mortgaged property so have to pay that myself. (interest only, lots less than like for like rental would be)

Next door neighbour, rented - paid for, gets over £500 a month in CM and gets the same wtc/cb as me.

It is such an unfair system.

iammumtoone

The system is very unfair and I don't see how this point was missed when they looked at the benefits system.

When you claim JSA or any other benefits they do not take into account child maintenance. My adviser has told me she has someone who gets over £1000 a mth in maintenance and claims full benefits.

If I got a good payment via child maintenance I would certainly not expect to receive benefits as well.

Some lone parents don't receive any maintenance and others like above receive loads - it doesn't seem right.

shop-to-drop

Of course the OP's ex will be due a second lot of maintenance too from her other child's father. Quite a money spinner full benefits and shed loads of maintenance. OP's son will benefit too though into adulthood as he will be able to claim maximum grant's and loans for Uni despite his father being in an excellent posiition to help him financially as he will know doubt being at least 18k better off not having to pay maintenance. The system is a joke.

shoe*diva79

The problem with the government not taking CM into consderation when applying for means tested benefits is there is no guarentee that the CM will be paid.

Personally, i went for 6 years at one stage without a single payment, then regular payments but at odd amounts for several years, followed by another period of non payment (periods of non payment were non compliant NRP, there was an assessment in place)

Most PWC receive a very modest amount of CM and I would bet money that the % of PWC living the high life on benefits and CM payments is really very very small.

Cally_Smart

Maybe the other system (pre April 2010)when you had to declare any CM received as & when you got it(on a weekly or monthly basis) ,was a fairer system.I think you were allowed to keep £10 of it or save up to £100 pounds & get it when you returned to work. Fairer for the tax payer to know that moneys recovered from the nrp was going to repay the secretary of state for the service.