Jobsearch 35 hours, 30 actions

Robbie64

This 35 hours per week jobseeking is coming in under Universal Credit but it looks like some personal advisers are taking it upon themselves to bring it in early, and therefore its unlikely to be officially sanctioned by DWP senior management. Or at the very least they'll say it has not yet been officially sanctioned but after the debacle about sanctions targets I don't believe a word they say.

Under UC voluntary work can be offset against the 35 hours so eg a person doing 5 hours voluntary work can agree to spend 30 hours per week job searching. Perhaps the OP could look into doing voluntary work and seeking a reduction in the hours he has to jobsearch? It would also look good on a CV.

But the Jobseekers Agreement is just that, an agreement so if you don't want to have to spend 35 hours per week job searching then don't agree to it. It's almost like you are being set up by your personal adviser to fail to meet the JSAG and if that happens you could be sanctioned.

bigboybrother

HappyMJ wrote: »

Are you sure it's not having to be available to take a job which is 35 hours or more? It's nothing to do with UC...that's ages away yet.

Sorry but at 58 I would not be spending 35 hours a week looking for work unless you really wanted to. I have never had a JSA agreement which has specified that and I have loads of experience.

Yes log on to Universal Job Search each day and browse that...but that really should only take...15 minutes. You cannot get to 35 hours a week looking at the same jobs over and over again. I spent about an hour a day looking for work and if I found something I liked and was suitable for I spent another hour customizing my CV and applying for the job. The rest of the time I was looking at ways to save money such as cooking from scratch every day and browsing MSE looking for free things to do.

Of course you should be looking for jobs for 7 hours a day. When you find one you will be expected to work those hours so what is the problem.

Is he searching far afield? You should be looking for a job anywhere in the UK!

If I was in the market for job hunting, I would be looking at every job that is advertised even if it was 500 miles away. A job is a job.

People today must be willing to move where the work is and not expect a job to crop up 10 minutes down the road.


My brother in law scours countries!!! - he is currently in Nigeria, then has a job in South Wales for a few months and then is hoping to get word about a start in Indonesia. He lives in the North East with his wife. She stays and looks after the home whilst he finds work where ever it may be. And similar to the poster he is 61 this year.

lukieboy96

I do not agree one bit. Why move hundreds of miles away for a job. Hmm cost of moving etc etc. Get a bloody life. I am sick of people attacking the unemployed.

bigboybrother

lukieboy96 wrote: »

I do not agree one bit. Why move hundreds of miles away for a job. Hmm cost of moving etc etc. Get a bloody life. I am sick of people attacking the unemployed.

Then you are not taking the job hunting seriously enough in my opinion.

Many people every year move all around the UK for better job prospects.
So what is so wrong in looking for a job say 250 miles away and coming home at the weekends? Many do that as well.

On the other hand you appear to be one of those that hopes a job will crop up just a short bus ride away.

Grief, in my younger days I moved from city to city, town to town in furtherence of my career.

Got married and lived in Cardiff and worked in London for 3 years. I came home on a Friday night and went back on Sunday evening.

Then moved to Bristol and lived there for 2 years working in Bristol as well as Birmingham, London, Liverpool and then back to Bristol.

Then I moved to Swansea for another 3 years whilst working in Swansea, London, Manchester, Leeds and Norwich.

Moved again to Manchester for 2 years and worked in Manchester, Glasgow and London.

If you won't put the effort in to find a job, even if it means living in digs for 4 nights a week then you are likely to be at the end of the queue for a very long time.

The days of job hunting within a 20 mile radius of your home are long gone. You have to move to the job now.

john539

bigboybrother wrote: »

Of course you should be looking for jobs for 7 hours a day. When you find one you will be expected to work those hours so what is the problem.

Because if the jobs aren't there or aren't suitable it will drive people around the bend which doesn't help anybody & doesn't make them more employable.

Your examples about moving around the country or around the world are only really relevant if people have a job to move to.

mightymole

it is impossible to prove hours(never heard that before) i have been told looking on 3 diff websites counts as 3 diff actions

Owain_Moneysaver

fedupfreddie wrote: »

They want permission to look at your activity on UJM to see that you have spent the time and done the actions

That's okay then, log into UJM, set your web browser to auto refresh the page every 10 minutes, then go to the beach :rotfl:

bigboybrother

john539 wrote: »

Because if the jobs aren't there or aren't suitable it will drive people around the bend which doesn't help anybody & doesn't make them more employable.

Your examples about moving around the country or around the world are only really relevant if people have a job to move to.

Then what you have to do is find out if there are some jobs 'around the country or around the world'.

You sound a like that you expect a job to jump out at you.

How do you know that there aren't jobs further afield? You haven't looked!!

I'll bet you that all you have done is look at an area starting with your local vicinity. Then you may have moved outwards to areas that are maybe an hour's travel or so away.

Do you want me to see if I can find you a job somewhere?

bigboybrother

mightymole wrote: »

it is impossible to prove hours(never heard that before) i have been told looking on 3 diff websites counts as 3 diff actions

And that is sufficient for a weeks job searching?

bigboybrother

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

That's okay then, log into UJM, set your web browser to auto refresh the page every 10 minutes, then go to the beach :rotfl:

LOL!!! I don't doubt that that actually happens.