Chancel Repair Liability

C_Mababejive

Chancel repair liability-another indication of our feudal existence. Imagine in the 21st century being possibly liable for repairs to a false church some distance away which was inspired by the sexual desires of a past ruler and in which you have no interest ! bizarre..

maninthestreet

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Chancel repair liability-another indication of our feudal existence. Imagine in the 21st century being possibly liable for repairs to a false church some distance away which was inspired by the sexual desires of a past ruler and in which you have no interest ! bizarre..

Yes, but that's History for you...

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G_M wrote: »

So you recommend....?

"That's what you're paying him/her for..."
"That's what you're paying them for..."
"That's what you're paying it for..."

And how about transexuals.... or third gender, or genderqueer persons?

Yes, I suggest 'him/her' or 'them' if you don't know their gender. It's not more difficult than 'him' and it's less sexist All the more important if you're talking to/about a trans* woman - using masculine pronouns will NOT go down well.

Otherwise (if you know the person), it's whatever gender they identify as. Some genderqueer folk prefer a mixture of masculine and feminine pronouns, others prefer gender neutral pronouns.

(In case you're wondering, my job is to provide advice on gender issues!)

mufi

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Yes, I suggest 'him/her' or 'them' if you don't know their gender. It's not more difficult than 'him' and it's less sexist All the more important if you're talking to/about a trans* woman - using masculine pronouns will NOT go down well.

Otherwise (if you know the person), it's whatever gender they identify as. Some genderqueer folk prefer a mixture of masculine and feminine pronouns, others prefer gender neutral pronouns.

(In case you're wondering, my job is to provide advice on gender issues!)

Dear me, you couldn't make it up.

Wasn't Cameron going to get rid of these daft jobs?

G_M

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Yes, I suggest 'him/her' or 'them' if you don't know their gender. It's not more difficult than 'him' and it's less sexist All the more important if you're talking to/about a trans* woman - using masculine pronouns will NOT go down well.

Otherwise (if you know the person), it's whatever gender they identify as. Some genderqueer folk prefer a mixture of masculine and feminine pronouns, others prefer gender neutral pronouns.

(In case you're wondering, my job is to provide advice on gender issues!)

You mean people are actually paid good money to navel-gaze linguistics in this way?

Not public money I hope, in these times where cuts are being made that directly affect vulnerable people's lives......

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I'm not employed the government, so it's really none of Cameron's business what I do for a living!

And no, it's not my job to advise on language like this (but it happens that I care about gender issues, so yes I do care about whether people use the right pronouns). I work for a peacebuilding organisation and it's my job to make sure that peacebuilding initiatives in conflict-affected countries take account of relevant gender issues, such as the use of rape as a weapon of war.

I only highlighted the use of pronouns because I think it's interesting that when people talk about a solicitor, that person is assumed to be male unless otherwise stated.

Cuckooclock

We took out indemnity insurance when we moved 2yrs ago, it is not the 2 local churches that are involved. Before our houses were built tha land came within the parish boundaries of a church some miles away, we also have 2 again a charge on the land for people whose relatives can no longer be traced. Peace of mind for £160 well worth it.
We were told by our solicitor not to be fooled by the charges being £1.50 & £1 a year.

jamie11

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Yes, I suggest 'him/her' or 'them' if you don't know their gender. It's not more difficult than 'him' and it's less sexist All the more important if you're talking to/about a trans* woman - using masculine pronouns will NOT go down well.

Otherwise (if you know the person), it's whatever gender they identify as. Some genderqueer folk prefer a mixture of masculine and feminine pronouns, others prefer gender neutral pronouns.

(In case you're wondering, my job is to provide advice on gender issues!)

You're daft, all you have to do is advise people to add a symbol to their signatures, the little circle with a cross or an arrow, or for bi's, both.
Absolutely no reason to get your knickers (or underpants) in a twist about it. As a matter of interest, do you get paid for this 'job'?

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Okay, first of all, I don't know if you've read my subsequent post about what my job actually is? If have you have then maybe you wouldn't be so flippant.

Secondly, I didn't intend for this to derail the thread, and this is not the place for this conversation. My initial post was just a friendly observation - no one is "getting their knickers in a twist".

neverdespairgirl

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Yes, I suggest 'him/her' or 'them' if you don't know their gender. It's not more difficult than 'him' and it's less sexist All the more important if you're talking to/about a trans* woman - using masculine pronouns will NOT go down well.

"him/her" is just clumsy, and "them" grammatically inaccurate.

So I will continue to use "him" in the sense of the masculine including the feminine.