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No planning permission for extention

HI All

I am after a bit of advice on a house we have recently veiwed in mind of putting an offer down.

At the back of the living room there is a sunroom/ extention. No door between the lounge and this area it is all open plan.

The room dimensions are 3.4 x 2.5 it has part wall part glazed windows which are fairly old/ dated.
I asked the estate agents when it was constructed and it was pre the current vendor and she has no detials on it (she brought the property 13 years ago).

I have checked the local planning website which shows no extention on the property on the map (nearby properties have applied and successfully been grated planning permission for a single storey extention at the back). I dont know if that makes any difference.

I dont want to offer on the property and go throught the expenses of surveys/ solicitor costs to find out the that could be knocked down?

What is the usual way of dealing with this kind of thing?

Thank you all in advance
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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    VICSH wrote: »
    What is the usual way of dealing with this kind of thing?

    Thank you all in advance

    Indemnity insurance paid for by the vendor, but as it's been there for well over 4 years, it's extremely unlikely that the local council would make you do anything.
  • VICSH
    VICSH Posts: 248 Forumite
    Thanks Dave, How do you prove it has been there for 4 years or more? just out of interest really
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    VICSH wrote: »
    Thanks Dave, How do you prove it has been there for 4 years or more? just out of interest really

    invoice/receipt from builder

    or builders merchant(s) if a diy job.

    People selling houses do know that they have to have kept this sort of thing don't they (don't bother I know the answer :()
  • nickcc
    nickcc Posts: 2,265 Forumite
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    edited 16 April 2013 at 8:22PM
    I would be more concerned if it didn't have building regs. If they didn't go for planning consent then they probably didn't go for building regs. Council tax will also be affected if there's no doors between the new conservatory/extension and the original construction.
  • Is to small enough to qualify under permitted development rules? It might not have needed planning permission.
    I'm a qualified accountant but please make sure you get expert advice as any opinion is made in a private capacity.
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  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 2,988 Forumite
    edited 17 April 2013 at 12:46AM
    Also it is over 10 years old and so no longer open to enforcement.
    A sworn affidavit by your vendor as to it's age should be sufficient, is it mentioned in their conveyancing purchase survey etc.
  • lincroft1710
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    nickcc wrote: »
    Council tax will also be affected if there's no doors between the new conservatory/extension and the original construction.

    Very doubtful that the absence of a door would in itself affect the CT band. However as there's no pp and if the conservatory was built after 1993 it probably isn't reflected in the current CT band, as the VOA won't have been informed.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • nickcc
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    Planners told us that if we removed the doors on our conservatory it would be classed as extra living space, obviously didn't affect us as no increase in banding until a new buyer purchases.
  • lincroft1710
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    Planners are not experts on CT. CT bands are based on a dwelling's value, so it is the effect on value the actual structure will have. So if a conservatory is built to the same standard and quality as the main house the VOA may treat it as part of the main house, so the presence or absence of doors would have no effect.

    I'm ex VOA and if I came across a conservatory built of inferior construction to main house but there were no doors between them, I would not include that conservatory in the house area when calculating the band.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • bclark
    bclark Posts: 882 Forumite
    The Council tax issue seems like a total non issue to me, people add conservatories, loft conversions etc all the time without any impact on council tax banding so don't worry about that.

    OP it sounds like this is a very small extension so may well be covered by permitted development, look into that.

    Building regs may be the next issue but that can easily be covered by an indemnity policy.
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