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Whittards 'Tea investment'

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Interesting mail/survey from Whittards suggests they are considering a novel investment. Probably still a long way off, but the proposal may be invest £1000 for 3 years and get £100 of free tea a year plus a discount on every purchase (10%?). After 3 years you get the £1000 back.

Given that we only drink tea and spend £2-400 a year with Whittards it sounds a good deal. Obviously the risk is them going out of business and losing the £1000, but what about the tax situation? Would tax be payable on the free tea and discounts?
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  • SnowMan
    SnowMan Posts: 3,678 Forumite
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    Would it depend on whether it was ISAd (iced) tea whether it was taxable?
    I came, I saw, I melted
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    I will confess that I haven't read through all of this, only a quick shuftie. You may want to do so in more detail, but accompanied by either something a bit stronger, or a bit more chocolatey.

    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/d/income_tax_rules_on_interest.pdf

    The Whittards proposal does sound like a type of corporate bond, but not one to be confused with a retail bond. Distributions from those would usually be made gross and taxed as interest.
    Living for tomorrow might mean that you survive the day after.
    It is always different this time. The only thing that is the same is the outcome.
    Portfolios are like personalities - one that is balanced is usually preferable.



  • hc25036
    hc25036 Posts: 387 Forumite
    SnowMan wrote: »
    Would it depend on whether it was ISAd (iced) tea whether it was taxable?

    Groan (but only because I didn't think of it first....)
  • hc25036
    hc25036 Posts: 387 Forumite
    He a quick scan and rapidly lost the will to live! I'd expect to pay tax on the £100 free tea but the shop discount would be tough to track.

    Might keep an eye out for this to start just for fun.


    SnowMan wrote: »
    Would it depend on whether it was ISAd (iced) tea whether it was taxable?
    Ark_Welder wrote: »
    I will confess that I haven't read through all of this, only a quick shuftie. You may want to do so in more detail, but accompanied by either something a bit stronger, or a bit more chocolatey.

    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/d/income_tax_rules_on_interest.pdf

    The Whittards proposal does sound like a type of corporate bond, but not one to be confused with a retail bond. Distributions from those would usually be made gross and taxed as interest.
  • SnowMan
    SnowMan Posts: 3,678 Forumite
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    Would it depend on whether it was ISAd (iced) tea whether it was taxable?
    hc25036 wrote: »
    Groan

    The cold jokes are always the best :snow_laug
    I came, I saw, I melted
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    That's snow joke.

    Don't Hotel Chocolate do something similar?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • coastline
    coastline Posts: 1,662 Forumite
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    one of the [pg] tips in the weekend papers...;)
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    what happens if Whittards goes bust (100% loss ?), and what probability do you put on it ?
  • sharpe106
    sharpe106 Posts: 3,558 Forumite
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    Would guess if it goes bust you would have to be in the que to get money money back, doubt any administrator would put you at the top of the list. Plus would the £100 of tea be your choice or theres. Also it would be £100 at full value, whittards is generally expensive unless they have a sale on.
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    Unsecured creditor, most likely. So right towards the end of the queue when comes to getting anything back in the event of insolvency.

    Forgot to say earlier, but very unlikely that the bond could be traded - unlike normal retail bonds - so your capital would likely be tied up for the duration too.
    Living for tomorrow might mean that you survive the day after.
    It is always different this time. The only thing that is the same is the outcome.
    Portfolios are like personalities - one that is balanced is usually preferable.



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