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Putting Name On Council Tenancy

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  • Racml34
    Racml34 Posts: 60 Forumite
    squinty wrote: »
    No, this is wrong. The orignal post made it clear clear that dad had already succeded to the tenancy on the death of the other joint tenant (the mother). There can only be on succession on a secure tenancy.

    Sorry Squinty I didn't see this before I posted my reply. You are quite right!
  • no1wf
    no1wf Posts: 376 Forumite
    edited 11 April 2013 at 8:31PM
    jamie11 wrote: »
    Bloomin' 'eck! Talk about wanting your cake and eating it.

    I think your dad should kick you out and rent your room to a lodger, under the 'rent-a-room' scheme he'd be about £3600 a year better off. Even more if he rents the spare room as well.

    Our rent is £37 a week so I'm paying about half, I don't understand what you mean.
    So your motivation is not the huge discount from RTB?

    If your dad is 60 then pretty soon when he is pensioner he wil be exempt. Social housing is a scarce resource and allocated according to need. He has secure tenancy and it is virtually impossible to evict someone with a secure tenancy.

    The teenager with kids might be in more need of housing than you.

    My Mum once talked about buying the house many years ago so that I would have somewhere to live, I thought it was a nice idea but thought nothing more of it and nothing more ever came of it. Yes the discount is nice and it's a good amount but it's not like I'm in England and getting 75k off it or whatever it is now. Even if I didn't get any discount I would still go for it just for security.

    It's good that I'm hearing he's likely not to be evicted but it still doesn't make me want to leave and get a brand new place and leave him on his own. If he had an accident and was left undiscovered all day I'd never forgive myself.

    And I would also be in need of housing when my dad dies so why not just let me carry on living here.
    olly300 wrote: »
    Then he is in poor health.

    What do you think poor health is?

    He's in a generation where people don't tend to complain until they are bed-ridden.

    He can walk around quite easily, does odd DIY jobs around the house he just can't walk very far before he gets coughing fits and has to use an inhaler. Poor health to me is someone who has trouble even walking around.
    Racml34 wrote: »
    Sorry just had another think about this (i've been on annual leave so not in work mode!) When your mother died your dad automatically succeeded to the tenancy so you cannot succeed as succession rights have been used up. You would need to apply to your local authority for assistance if you felt you could not obtain your own accommodation although if you do not have any particular vulnerability then you would be low priority.

    I understand that's how it works but I did read that in some cases they have been able to do a discretionary succession/assignment. Does living here my entire life, with all our rent paid with no problems, being excellent tenants count for nothing?
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  • squinty
    squinty Posts: 573 Forumite
    no1wf wrote: »
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    but it's not like I'm in England and getting 75k off it or whatever it is now.


    ?

    Where do you live? The law is different in Scotland
  • Racml34
    Racml34 Posts: 60 Forumite
    And I would also be in need of housing when my dad dies so why not just let me carry on living here.

    I understand that's how it works but I did read that in some cases they have been able to do a discretionary succession/assignment. Does living here my entire life, with all our rent paid with no problems, being excellent tenants count for nothing?[/QUOTE]

    They cannot just let you carrying on living in a property that is too big for you. There are many families needing that size accommodation who are waiting and will have been waiting longer than you. If you are not vulnerable why can you not secure your own housing in the event your father dies?

    You mention discretionary succession. I can think of only one case recently where we applied this and the circumstances were very exceptional. A parent died and the children were very young. Without wishing to be rude there is nothing exceptional about your case that would set you apart from many thousands of others needing housing.
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    no1wf wrote: »
    Our rent is £37 a week so I'm paying about half, I don't understand what you mean.



    My Mum once talked about buying the house many years ago so that I would have somewhere to live, I thought it was a nice idea but thought nothing more of it and nothing more ever came of it. Yes the discount is nice and it's a good amount but it's not like I'm in England and getting 75k off it or whatever it is now. Even if I didn't get any discount I would still go for it just for security.

    It's good that I'm hearing he's likely not to be evicted but it still doesn't make me want to leave and get a brand new place and leave him on his own. If he had an accident and was left undiscovered all day I'd never forgive myself.

    And I would also be in need of housing when my dad dies so why not just let me carry on living here.



    He can walk around quite easily, does odd DIY jobs around the house he just can't walk very far before he gets coughing fits and has to use an inhaler. Poor health to me is someone who has trouble even walking around.



    I understand that's how it works but I did read that in some cases they have been able to do a discretionary succession/assignment. Does living here my entire life, with all our rent paid with no problems, being excellent tenants count for nothing?

    Because the house is more suited to a family and you are capable of finding somewhere more suitable to your needs.
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  • no1wf
    no1wf Posts: 376 Forumite
    squinty wrote: »
    Where do you live? The law is different in Scotland

    Wales
    Racml34 wrote: »
    They cannot just let you carrying on living in a property that is too big for you. There are many families needing that size accommodation who are waiting and will have been waiting longer than you. If you are not vulnerable why can you not secure your own housing in the event your father dies?

    You mention discretionary succession. I can think of only one case recently where we applied this and the circumstances were very exceptional. A parent died and the children were very young. Without wishing to be rude there is nothing exceptional about your case that would set you apart from many thousands of others needing housing.

    I understand that and I would move my boyfriend in and we could then start our own family.

    I'm obviously very attached to this house having lived here all my life it's the only place I know. I've not moved around like a lot of people and can't just detach myself. I also don't think I could cope with my Dad dying, having to organise the funeral and everything involved, all the paperwork and legal things, anything involved with the house, finding somewhere else to live, moving 3 peoples worth of belongings into a new house, hopefully still being paid by work at this time, with no one to turn to, all by myself within the few weeks I was told I'd get to be out of here
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  • Racml34
    Racml34 Posts: 60 Forumite
    no1wf wrote: »
    Wales



    I understand that and I would move my boyfriend in and we could then start our own family.

    I'm obviously very attached to this house having lived here all my life it's the only place I know. I've not moved around like a lot of people and can't just detach myself. I also don't think I could cope with my Dad dying, having to organise the funeral and everything involved, all the paperwork and legal things, anything involved with the house, finding somewhere else to live, moving 3 peoples worth of belongings into a new house, hopefully still being paid by work at this time, with no one to turn to, all by myself within the few weeks I was told I'd get to be out of here

    I do understand this however you do not have children at present so you cannot be given a house on the basis that you might have them. If you we're currently homeless with children living in a hostel etc how would you feel about it? Social rented accommodation is designed to assist those in urgent need which you are not.

    The simple solution would seem to be that you ask the housing association for assistance in finding your dad smaller accommodation if he is in agreement with this.
  • no1wf
    no1wf Posts: 376 Forumite
    Racml34 wrote: »
    I do understand this however you do not have children at present so you cannot be given a house on the basis that you might have them. If you we're currently homeless with children living in a hostel etc how would you feel about it? Social rented accommodation is designed to assist those in urgent need which you are not.

    The simple solution would seem to be that you ask the housing association for assistance in finding your dad smaller accommodation if he is in agreement with this.

    That seems to be one of very few options I have. Either I move out and Dad moves out. Or we carry on as we are, Dad dies and I pack up my life in 2 weeks and move out.

    I think I'm still going to save up for a deposit and see what I can do about buying the house. Maybe the bigger a deposit I have the more chance I might have. My boyfriend might be able to go on it too.
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  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,112 Forumite
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    no1wf wrote: »
    That seems to be one of very few options I have. Either I move out and Dad moves out. Or we carry on as we are, Dad dies and I pack up my life in 2 weeks and move out.

    I think I'm still going to save up for a deposit and see what I can do about buying the house. Maybe the bigger a deposit I have the more chance I might have. My boyfriend might be able to go on it too.

    You haven't understood the previous posts on here.

    You are not a tenant. You are highly unlikely to be able to get your name on the tenancy. The law only permits those who are on the tenancy to buy the place. The size of the deposit is wholly irrelevant. The law does not give you the right to buy the place.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    no1wf wrote: »
    I pay £20 towards the rent each week does that still count?
    no1wf wrote: »
    I think I'm still going to save up for a deposit and see what I can do about buying the house.

    While you're only paying £20 a week in rent, you've got a good chance to save up for a deposit.
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