Putting Name On Council Tenancy

no1wf

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There is more likelihood of your father being made homeless if he (you) bought the council house than if he stays as a tenant.

There are more things to go wrong when a mortgage is involved such as no/little help when you lose your job etc resulting in repossession & eviction.

I understand that if it got as serious as that then repossession and eviction is a possibility, but I would have savings, Dad has savings for such an emergency or if we couldn't make a payment. We would also have help from my boyfriend who would move in with us.

I just feel like that situation is less likely to happen than the council moving either of us out if the other passes away/leaves.

Racml34

Hi I'm a housing officer although not in your local authority. You would be asking for an inter generational tenancy which are very rarely granted and only in very exceptional circumstances which it does not sound like you have I'm afraid.

At present the Housing Association cannot take action against those living in properties too large for them. If he was of working age then the 'bedroom tax' may have been an affordability issue but it's not relevant here so as long as his rent is covered and he abides by the terms of his tenancy there is no risk of eviction.

If he does want to move to smaller accommodation then many Housing Associations offer assistance with moving costs etc although they would only offer him the size of property he is eligible for, in this case a one bedroom property.

poppysarah

no1wf wrote: »

Because he's an 'elderly' man on his own in a 3 bedroom house, what with under occupancy and bedroom tax going on it wouldn't surprise me if they came knocking saying there's a teenager with 2 kids that needs the house

" I'm 25 and would like to move out but I can't as I don't want to leave my Dad,"

He's either on his own in a 3 bedroom house or you live with him.

If you live with him then pay ALL the rent and whilst it won't give you immediate security by being on the tenancy it will remove any of your worries about him being "moved out"

The bedroom tax applies to people who are having their rent paid by housing benefit. If he's not claiming that then he would have no worries.

no1wf

Racml34 wrote: »

Hi I'm a housing officer although not in your local authority. You would be asking for an inter generational tenancy which are very rarely granted and only in very exceptional circumstances which it does not sound like you have I'm afraid.

At present the Housing Association cannot take action against those living in properties too large for them. If he was of working age then the 'bedroom tax' may have been an affordability issue but it's not relevant here so as long as his rent is covered and he abides by the terms of his tenancy there is no risk of eviction.

If he does want to move to smaller accommodation then many Housing Associations offer assistance with moving costs etc although they would only offer him the size of property he is eligible for, in this case a one bedroom property.

Really? What would happen to me when he passes away, would I get to stay here or is what I'm told true that I would be moved on in a few weeks?

poppysarah wrote: »

" I'm 25 and would like to move out but I can't as I don't want to leave my Dad,"

He's either on his own in a 3 bedroom house or you live with him.

If you live with him then pay ALL the rent and whilst it won't give you immediate security by being on the tenancy it will remove any of your worries about him being "moved out"

The bedroom tax applies to people who are having their rent paid by housing benefit. If he's not claiming that then he would have no worries.

I live with him, we get housing benefit but it's 14% (I think) less than it used to be because of our spare bedroom. I pay £20 towards the rent each week does that still count?

jamie11

no1wf wrote: »

I pay £20 towards the rent each week does that still count?

Bloomin' 'eck! Talk about wanting your cake and eating it.

I think your dad should kick you out and rent your room to a lodger, under the 'rent-a-room' scheme he'd be about £3600 a year better off. Even more if he rents the spare room as well.

Racml34

If he were to pass away you would need to have been living with him for 12 months to apply to succeed to the tenancy. However when considering your request the landlord would look at whether the property was suitable for your needs. As you would be a single person under occupying by 2 bedroom they would say it wasn't appropriate. They could however grant succession rights but offer an alternative property more suited to your needs. You would need to check your father's succession rights had not been used up when the property went from joint to sole previously. I'm not at work today and the rules on succession are quite complicated!

charlieismydarling

So your motivation is not the huge discount from RTB?

If your dad is 60 then pretty soon when he is pensioner he wil be exempt. Social housing is a scarce resource and allocated according to need. He has secure tenancy and it is virtually impossible to evict someone with a secure tenancy.

The teenager with kids might be in more need of housing than you.

olly300

no1wf wrote: »

He's not in that poor of health he can walk around perfectly fine but just not for a long time as he had lung problems and gets short of breath.

Then he is in poor health.

What do you think poor health is?

He's in a generation where people don't tend to complain until they are bed-ridden.

squinty

Racml34 wrote: »

If he were to pass away you would need to have been living with him for 12 months to apply to succeed to the tenancy. However when considering your request the landlord would look at whether the property was suitable for your needs. As you would be a single person under occupying by 2 bedroom they would say it wasn't appropriate. They could however grant succession rights but offer an alternative property more suited to your needs. You would need to check your father's succession rights had not been used up when the property went from joint to sole previously. I'm not at work today and the rules on succession are quite complicated!

No, this is wrong. The orignal post made it clear clear that dad had already succeded to the tenancy on the death of the other joint tenant (the mother). There can only be on succession on a secure tenancy.

Racml34

Sorry just had another think about this (i've been on annual leave so not in work mode!) When your mother died your dad automatically succeeded to the tenancy so you cannot succeed as succession rights have been used up. You would need to apply to your local authority for assistance if you felt you could not obtain your own accommodation although if you do not have any particular vulnerability then you would be low priority.