Sanctions

donnajunkie

bigjl wrote: »

Well I know of someone that was sacked for being late to work.

And if you take an unauthorised absence from NHS employment you can find your self with serious disciplinary problems.

only bad employers operate like this and once you have been with them long enough to get full employment rights they cant sack you for being late.

princessdon

donnajunkie wrote: »

only bad employers operate like this and once you have been with them long enough to get full employment rights they cant sack you for being late.

They can and do, it's now 2 years before you get rights for unfair dismissal.

donnajunkie

princessdon wrote: »

Because you are assuming that benefits are sustenance. Whilst for some they can be, for some they give a better disposable income than those who pay taxes.

they dont consider this point when deciding whether to sanction or not though do they.

donnajunkie

anonymousx3 wrote: »

What would it be for the individual who is not deemed "sick"/"disabled" enough by benefit criteria but is still not fit for work? What are these individuals supposed to do?

they have to play along.

donnajunkie

princessdon wrote: »

I can honestly say as a parent I do not need £85 pw to feed and clothe my child, I could do this on far less especially short term.

you are really just making an argument for a reduction in benefits families get in general here.

donnajunkie

princessdon wrote: »

Quite often workers lose more. Sickness policy can lead to sacking ergo a 26 week sanction. 3 days per year in some companies, its getting tough for workers too.

surely thats iffy legally to sack someone for being off more than 3 days in a year when their sickness could be genuine. i am talking about in regards to permanent workers of course as short term workers can be sacked for no reason. again though i believe only bad companies operate like this.

donnajunkie

princessdon wrote: »

They can and do, it's now 2 years before you get rights for unfair dismissal.

yes i know. although a decent employer could give you better rights from the start in your contract. i 've worked for an employer who still paid your wage if you were off sick. another allowed me to take a weeks holiday at xmas even though i only started there in the middle of december. so they are not all bad.

Dunroamin

donnajunkie wrote: »

i think you've misunderstood the post.

I very much doubt it.;)

Dunroamin

donnajunkie wrote: »

what you are not considering is if they continue to not meet the requirement they will repeatedly be sanctioned and the impact increases.

Then perhaps they'll start to meet the requirements. Let's face it, the requirements for claiming JSA aren't particularly onerous.

seven-day-weekend

Dunroamin wrote: »

Then perhaps they'll start to meet the requirements. Let's face it, the requirements for claiming JSA aren't particularly onerous.

That's precisely it Dunroamin. I don't know why anyone would not be able to fulfill the criteria. They are not difficult.