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MSE News: New Isa year under way – act now for tax-free savings

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in ISAs & Tax-free Savings
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  • innovateinnovate
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    although you can only open one each tax year to deposit new money in.
    This is probably not meant to say what it says. As has been discussed on the forums countless times, and as supported by the HMRC website, you can open as many ISAs as you like each year.

    You can also deposit into more than one cash ISA a year provided you have previously transferred (using the formal transfer process) your entire cash ISA deposit for the year.

    Sad to see official MSE articles that help to confuse the issue.
  • DragonQDragonQ Forumite
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    I think the simplest way to put it is "all of your current year's subscriptions (deposits) must together be in one place".
  • PincherPincher
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    Alternatively,

    Why not invest in the Italian Savings Account.
    Italian Bonds are yielding around 4.8%.

    Now that the Russians are pulling their money out of Cyprus,
    it's time to create the Irish Savings Account. "We'll do a lovely job looking arfter your money, to be sure. to be sure."
  • innovateinnovate
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    Pincher wrote: »
    Alternatively,

    Why not invest in the Italian Savings Account.
    Italian Bonds are yielding around 4.8%.

    Now that the Russians are pulling their money out of Cyprus,
    it's time to create the Irish Savings Account. "We'll do a lovely job looking arfter your money, to be sure. to be sure."

    Are you well?
  • edited 8 April 2013 at 6:51PM
    ConsumeristConsumerist Forumite
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    edited 8 April 2013 at 6:51PM
    innovate wrote: »
    . . . You can also deposit into more than one cash ISA a year provided you have previously transferred (using the formal transfer process) your entire cash ISA deposit for the year. . .
    You can deposit into only one ISA in any tax year but that ISA may be transferred between different ISA accounts.

    I think it's just a question of terminology; there being a distinction between the ISA and the account which holds it at any given time.
    >:)Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
  • david78david78 Forumite
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    To be fair to the MSE team, it does say "deposit new money" and I think the meaning is clear enough. To say, "deposit money from outside a Cash ISA (not a Cash ISA transfer)" would be more precice but a bit verbose.
  • innovateinnovate
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    You can deposit into only one ISA in any tax year but that ISA may be transferred between different ISA accounts.


    david78 wrote: »
    To be fair to the MSE team, it does say "deposit new money" and I think the meaning is clear enough. To say, "deposit money from outside a Cash ISA (not a Cash ISA transfer)" would be more precice but a bit verbose.

    david78, I think you have not understood the [cash] ISA rules. Not surprising, given even MSE articles are not clear on the rules.

    The MSE article says you can "only open one to deposit new money in". As I said, they probably don't mean what they say but if taken at face value, this is just a plain wrong statement.

    Fact is that you can open any number of ISAs in a tax year to deposit new money into.

    For starters, you can open two totally separate ones anyway - - - a cash and an S&S ISA. But that's just a by-the-by, since the main MSE site basically ignores S&S ISAs because they are investments and MSE doesn't cover investments. But just alone on that point, the statement in the MSE article is wrong.

    Secondly, and more relevant to cash ISAs, which MSE is really talking about only: you can open just about as many ISAs a year as there are providers, and deposit into as many cash ISAs a year as you like - - - - provided that you have previously transferred (using the formal transfer process) your entire cash ISA deposit for the year into the ISA into which you want to next make a new deposit.

    If MSE mean that you have a single cash ISA a year which you can move around ISA providers by means of an official transfer, they should say so.
  • edited 8 April 2013 at 7:59PM
    david78david78 Forumite
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    I know you can open as many Cash ISAs as you like each year. There are even situations where you can add new money to different Cash ISA accounts in the same year (where the ISA manager "pools" the accounts).

    Also you can open and fully fund a Cash ISA, transfer it to Stocks and Shares ISA, and then open and fully fund another Cash ISA (with another provider if you like), all in the same year.

    If you transfer a Cash ISA account for a current year (all of it must go) and there is unused allowance, you can pay into the new account up to the allowance limit. But it isn't technically a different Cash ISA, just a different account.
  • edited 8 April 2013 at 8:07PM
    innovateinnovate
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    edited 8 April 2013 at 8:07PM
    david78 wrote: »
    IThere are even situations where you can add new money to different Cash ISA accounts in the same year (where the ISA manager "pools" the accounts).

    EDIT: Ah, you edited your original response whilst I was posting my response to your original response. My following still responds to your original response.

    You are right that you can add new money into different cash ISAs in the same year where the ISA manager pools the accounts (like Nationwide do).

    However, you do not need an ISA manager who pools the accounts in order to put new money into different cash ISAs in the same tax year.

    You can get any new ISA manager to transfer your entire (emphasis on entire) existing current year ISA, and then continue to put new money into the ISA with that new ISA manager. (There are even further possibilities to deal with exceptional situations but this thread is not the place to begin to go into them.)

    It's a very simple concept to understand but made incredibly confusing by people and MSE articles claiming, may be inadvertently, that it isn't possible.
  • david78david78 Forumite
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    innovate wrote: »
    However, you do not need an ISA manager who pools the accounts in order to put new money into different cash ISAs in the same tax year.

    You can get any new ISA manager to transfer your entire (emphasis on entire) existing current year ISA, and then continue to put new money into the ISA with that new ISA manager. (There are even further possibilities to deal with exceptional situations but this thread is not the place to begin to go into them.)

    I agree with you :D
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