New timber - dry rot

ey_up

Hi.

Just hoping for a little advice as we have received some timber from a timber yard and my joiner has taken one look at it and said its dry rot and I should send it back immediately and not put it in the house.

I cant take a picture at the moment but some of the timber is a little damp and it does appear to have a white/off white mold growth in a strand like formation along some lengths. Joiner suspects it been outside and not covered properly. It looks like early growth stage rather than prolonged attack that has eaten the timber.

Has anyone experienced this/do they have any advice? Its graded timber and I am not sure whether this is often kept outside at timber yards etc and it is just a case of clean, thorough dry and use or should I send it back immediately.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as I do not want to risk spreading the stuff to the house.

Cheers all

ps I will up a picture this evening after I have visited again

Hintza

Take your joiner with you when you take it back.

ey_up

Unfortunately that wont be an option. I havent got a truck and joiner is away from tomorrow all week so going to have to deal with this one myself I think

cyclonebri1

Take your joiners word for it and go back, armed with photos, they can pick the old stuff up when they replace.

This is what almost all pros will select their own timber, or at least have an understanding with the woodyard that anything less than perfect goes back


I genuinely thing that the yard understands this, and tries to offload any substandard stuff onto Joe Public.

ey_up

I am glad you have said that Cyclone. Its not uncommon then! I will try and upload a picture tonight.

Lets hope I havent been given duff opinion from the joiner!

dampdaveski

eyup ey_up,

It's unlikely to be dry rot as the conditions required for this particular rot to germinate and grow are pretty exact.

It sounds like it may well need to go back to the timber yard. However if the rot is superficial and hasn't actually damaged the timber then it might be worth talking to the timber yard people to get some preservative off them to treat the timber as a precaution.

As with any type of wood rot though if you remove the source of moisture the rot will die

What are you going to use the timber for?
As you've already stated a picture would help

ey_up

hey

pics as promised.what do u think? your help is very much appreciated. thank you

leveller2911

Oh dear, you have been sold CLS(Canadian Lumber Standard) timber that should have been stored under cover in the dry but its got wet and warm damp conditions are a big no no.

It should never have been allowed to be sold to anyone. It looks like "wet rot" but I'm sure Dampdaveski will clarify for us.In all honesty I wouldn't entertain dealing with any timber yard that allowed that to be sold.One photo shows the stamp "Dry graded " and you can clearly see water marks and mould spores.As DD posted once you take away the moisture the rot will die but in this case its new timber and should never have left the yard.


They are a disgrace and they should be named and shamed.

capeverde

I'll be honest I reckon about 50% of the cheaper white wood timbers in most yards are below quality. They are either bent or have deep shakes. Quality has really suffered as the timber is grown more quickly and quality control is nearly non existent. Even better quality redwoods that are used in floorboards would probably fall into that percentage as well. Loads of knot holes and uneven moulding. Any machine operator will hear knots going through the moulder, but pay no attention as they know it will be flogged to some unknowing private punter after the trade blokes that actually care have sorted through it in the yard. To get really good quality you have to find a supplier and spend enough with them to make them bothered. Ive moved from local yards to a specialist importer, but I have to fill an arctic every delivery, which obviously wont help the man in the street.

capeverde

oh and by the way, leveller is right, its 6x2 cls which should always be stored inside and really only be used for interior studding and similar applications. Someone is taking the !!!! giving you that.

cyclonebri1

leveller2911 wrote: »

Oh dear, you have been sold CLS(Canadian Lumber Standard) timber that should have been stored under cover in the dry but its got wet and warm damp conditions are a big no no.

It should never have been allowed to be sold to anyone. It looks like "wet rot" but I'm sure Dampdaveski will clarify for us.In all honesty I wouldn't entertain dealing with any timber yard that allowed that to be sold.One photo shows the stamp "Dry graded " and you can clearly see water marks and mould spores.As DD posted once you take away the moisture the rot will die but in this case its new timber and should never have left the yard.


They are a disgrace and they should be named and shamed.

It's not uncommon, I bought a load of 6 x 2 cls C16R for a garden pergola two weeks ago, it was fine and dry. I guess the R stands for preservative treated because this is what it was.

It was stored outside along with the none treated equivalent, let's guess, they rely on rate of turnover not to allow the product to deteriorate?, get 1 bad winter and.....;);)