I never thought I'd want a PPC to win a case but...

prowla

So it seems that the driver stayed in the car and used the disabled space as a loading bay. It may have even been part of his training to pick the most advantageous space security wise.

Since the bay next was unoccupied it would seem that nobody was inconvenienced by it.

Nonetheless, the "we are all in this together" thing doesn't really ring true, and he is probably less in it that many others of us.

maninthestreet

As fas as I am aware, passengers in a vehicle are not considered liable for any parking 'offences' comitted by the driver of the said vehicle.

esmerobbo

maninthestreet wrote: »

As fas as I am aware, passengers in a vehicle are not considered liable for any parking 'offences' comitted by the driver of the said vehicle.

You are if you are the registered keeper as well! (official PCN's of course)

FatAndy

Stroma wrote: »

Perhaps this person wouldn't believe his eyes when others park in a disabled bay without a badge on display ? I'm not defending the esteemed politician or his driver here, but we advise every single day on here not to pay fake tickets for parking in disabled bays on private land.

I think we also advise every single day that even though the PCN's are unenforceable nonetheless people should abide by the rules and that it isn't acceptable for anyone to abuse disabled parking spaces regardless of who or where they might be. If people see a supposedly respectable politician abusing disabled spaces in this way without punishment they'll think it's ok for them to copy this behaviour which will only create more business for the scammers .

FatAndy

prowla wrote: »

So it seems that the driver stayed in the car and used the disabled space as a loading bay. It may have even been part of his training to pick the most advantageous space security wise.

If security was such an issue wouldn't have been safer for him to stay locked in the car and send the police officer into McDonalds to buy his Happy Meal for him? Or more to the point go somewhere a bit less public than a McDonalds at a motorway service station.

Stroma

FatAndy wrote: »

I think we also advise every single day that even though the PCN's are unenforceable nonetheless people should abide by the rules and that it isn't acceptable for anyone to abuse disabled parking spaces regardless of who or where they might be. If people see a supposedly respectable politician abusing disabled spaces in this way without punishment they'll think it's ok for them to copy this behaviour which will only create more business for the scammers .

Well you targeting the wrong person then, it would appear that he was in McDonald's getting a burger, so how did he exactly abuse a disabled bay when he wasn't actually in or driving the vehicle?

I seriously don't like his actions as a politician or the conservatives in general, but its wrong to accuse him of something like this when clearly he had no control of, it's the driver who did this not the passenger. Think people are blowing this out of proportion.

Guys_Dad

FatAndy wrote: »

If security was such an issue wouldn't have been safer for him to stay locked in the car and send the police officer into McDonalds to buy his Happy Meal for him? Or more to the point go somewhere a bit less public than a McDonalds at a motorway service station.

That's right. Stay as a target in a locked car with the driver and his keys chatting to Ronald McDonald a fair distance away. Brilliant!

Sorry, both you and the Socialist Mirror are twisting the actual situation, completely ignoring Protection Police training and whitewashing the fact that Ozzy wasn't driving and had been dropped off before any parking had been carried out.

Let's balance it, shall we http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304544/Ed-Balls-confesses-caught-speeding-despite-campaigning-20mph-zones.html

I apologise in advance for off-topic. (Don't really !!!)

Jennifer_Jane

OK, since the OP wants to bring pettiness here, how about the despicable, economy-ruining, Ed Balls speeding ticket. How about the people who make the law obey the law?

And I only bring this up because it's as spurious as the George Osborne thing (he wasn't driving; driver parked in an area which GO hadn't seen was disabled; on private land).

So let's not be so stupid and petty.

Richard53

Agreed. There are plenty of places to go on the Internet to participate in pro- or anti-government debate. This isn't one of those places.

As far as the topic goes, we have established that a passenger in a car is not to blame for the parking behaviour of its driver, and that a police driver ought to have known better. (I speak as someone whose wife holds a blue badge, and who is infuriated by able-bodied people who park in disabled bays to save themselves a few yards' walk, but I don't think there is anything to get excited about here.)

bargepole

Richard53 wrote: »

.. a police driver ought to have known better.

I once got a Council ticket for parking in a disabled spot for 5 minutes while picking up a takeaway.

A police patrol car parked in the adjacent disabled bay, and the two very large coppers went into the same takeaway shop, but no ticket was placed on their vehicle.

I point this out in my informal appeal to the Council, and their reply was that "police officers on duty need to be near their vehicle at all times".