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Help, I have been scammed & lost everything. *stressed*

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  • gb12345
    gb12345 Posts: 3,055 Forumite
    cloud360 wrote: »
    i was wanting people to share their experiences with paypal chargeback.

    :(

    I have told you repeatedly other people's experience is irrelevant to you. It will have no baring on whether you get your money back, but if you want some examples get off your lazy !!!!! and stick "paypal chargeback" in the search bar and see what results you get back. It's called research, a student should know all about that - you obviously don't otherwise you wouldn't be in this mess!

    If you do find some example, they will be irrelevant to you anyway as -
    1. They probably won't be for co-op bank
    2. They will not be a business transaction on a personal account.

    Oh and by the way, if these cookers had miraculously turned up, how would you have paid the import duty and VAT on them - do you even know how much the duty and VAT would have been? Did you even know that import duty and VAT existed?
  • ballisticbrian
    ballisticbrian Posts: 4,003 Forumite
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    cloud360 wrote: »
    DHL do ship goods, they said they will send lots of boxes, but 1 tracking number.

    All the boxes will come together, they didnt specify how many items will be in each box though.


    I wonder how that works, you can track up to 300 boxes with one tracking number? Doesn't make sense.
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  • Brooker_Dave
    Brooker_Dave Posts: 5,196 Forumite
    £16.20 each from Amazon, and the OP ordered 300 of them which would cost about £4860 in the UK. (which is roughly $7340)
    They paid $3000 which is well under half the UK price and this was to include shipping a total of almost 400KG from the USA to the UK.

    If something seems far too good to be true, there's normally a reason why.

    The $3000 would be about right for 300 see:

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/442119299/High_Quality_Food_Steamer.html

    It's the buying them off skype and a website for finding subcontractors I can't get my head round...
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  • Brooker_Dave
    Brooker_Dave Posts: 5,196 Forumite
    I wonder how that works, you can track up to 300 boxes with one tracking number? Doesn't make sense.

    One big shipment will often come in a number of parcels.
    "Love you Dave Brooker! x"

    "i sent a letter headded sales of god act 1979"
  • ballisticbrian
    ballisticbrian Posts: 4,003 Forumite
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    One big shipment will often come in a number of parcels.

    But think about the amount of work involved in packing 300 items for export and doing the paperwork for each one, we are talking several days work for someone in the USA to send steam cookers for $10 each unit?
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  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    cloud360 wrote: »
    On their business account it listed their site, where they offered some digital goods. But I never paid digital goods, but based on sellers history am guessing paypal decided to believe seller and not me.
    cloud360 wrote: »
    person is in usa. paid as "payment for goods and services ", because there used to be option for "payment for goods" and one for "payment for services" then paypal merged them. they are crooks !

    If I follow the logic and the basis of the scam correctly here, a payment is made for physical goods via Paypal, but subsequently, the payment is amended to show non-physical goods, which defeats any buyer's reclaim to the payment.

    1. Surely there was a clear indication of physical goods at the point of sale and on the Paypal invoice?

    2. If it is possible for any seller to re-identify physical goods and something else, after the transaction is made, this has to be such an easy scam that every scammer with internet access would have jumped on ... with the result that it ought to have made every newspaper headline and every TV news report.

    3. Surely there's got to be more to this?
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • Brooker_Dave
    Brooker_Dave Posts: 5,196 Forumite
    But think about the amount of work involved in packing 300 items for export and doing the paperwork for each one, we are talking several days work for someone in the USA to send steam cookers for $10 each unit?

    No, they'd come in outer boxes of 4 or 6, the paperwork would cover the whole consignment.
    "Love you Dave Brooker! x"

    "i sent a letter headded sales of god act 1979"
  • gb12345
    gb12345 Posts: 3,055 Forumite
    1. Surely there was a clear indication of physical goods at the point of sale and on the Paypal invoice?

    There is no PayPal invoice - the OP just sent money through PayPal using the goods & services option.
  • Georgiegirl256
    Georgiegirl256 Posts: 7,005 Forumite
    After reading this thread from start to finish, I suspect that we are the ones being scammed....it's a strange thread indeed!

    The OP will probably just abandon this thread now and go and start another one.
  • cloud360
    cloud360 Posts: 51 Forumite
    After reading this thread from start to finish, I suspect that we are the ones being scammed....it's a strange thread indeed!

    The OP will probably just abandon this thread now and go and start another one.

    I wont. what is strange so i can clarify
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