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Living on £53 a week?

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  • daska
    daska Posts: 6,212 Forumite
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    Maybe so, but as long as there are people claiming DLA fraudulently, I'll continue to use it as an example - if I wish.

    Sorry if I came across as stroppy yesterday, I'd just worked out that as a result of letting DS2's dad (who's been made homeless and has no income at present) kip in the spare room I'd have minus money after the rent and utility bills are paid. This morning I've double checked the figures and I'll actually have £33/week which is doable short term.

    DLA is actually a good example when used correctly in context as the low rate of fraud and high rate of successful appeals shows just how stringent the medicals etc are. But how about actually becoming au fait with the official figures and making an effort to point out the real problems and get that information across to all the rest of the sheeple that blindly believe what they hear down the pub?
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  • iwb100
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    Maybe so, but as long as there are people claiming DLA fraudulently, I'll continue to use it as an example - if I wish.

    But do you think that is one of the bigger issues our economy faces? The figures say it isn't. It's so tiny it's barely worth mentioning.

    The real economic/welfare bomb that is hitting us now, but is growing exponentially is care for the elderly. This is going up and up, impacting not only on the welfare bill but also the cost of running the NHS, social services etc etc. No easy answers to that one. But it's a problem that we're not addressing - at all. More and more elderly people are being admitted to hospitals, who aren't really properly sick enough to be there, for example, but have nowhere else to go until they're self supporting again. The cost in that alone is massivel, let alone all the community care etc.

    And if we stopped big corporations from evading tax that would be a far more significant step in terms of percentage GDP than worrying about benefit fraud.

    I don't think anybody wants there to be any benefit fraud. But it needs to have a sensible perspective applied to it.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    It's not just necessary elderly care, either.

    The number of things thrown at you when you get to your 60s is ridiculous - cheques for energy bills, free travel in your local area, reduced travel costs nationwide, free prescriptions / eye tests etc.

    My Dad gets all those things - he commutes to his extremely well-paid job at a hefty discount thanks to his senior railcard!

    The QC I did a 3 month trial with this year got to travel back from court free with his Freedom Pass.
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  • daska
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    Easy to understand breakdown of the figures here: Expenditure by recipient as a percentage of total, 2011-12
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  • mumps
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    Sorry if this is a dumb question but what would the £53 cover? I mean I assume it wouldn't be expected to cover rent but what about CT, gas, electric, water? If it is £53 for food and clothes/entertainment then I could do it. If it was expected to cover all the bills I couldn't. Could someone explain what it is expected to cover?
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  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    £53 is a rather random figure drawn out of the air, it appears. JSA is £70-something a week.
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  • The money afaik would not be expected to cover rent or Council Tax, but would be expected to cover everything else.
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  • DeeDee74
    DeeDee74 Posts: 2,941 Forumite
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    mumps wrote: »
    Sorry if this is a dumb question but what would the £53 cover? I mean I assume it wouldn't be expected to cover rent but what about CT, gas, electric, water? If it is £53 for food and clothes/entertainment then I could do it. If it was expected to cover all the bills I couldn't. Could someone explain what it is expected to cover?

    $53 has got to cover everything bills food if your in a bigger property tha you need then some towords rent to.
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  • Pollycat
    Pollycat Posts: 35,911 Forumite
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    daska wrote: »
    DLA is actually a good example when used correctly in context as the low rate of fraud and high rate of successful appeals shows just how stringent the medicals etc are. But how about actually becoming au fait with the official figures and making an effort to point out the real problems and get that information across to all the rest of the sheeple that blindly believe what they hear down the pub?

    I don't discuss politics, religion or benefits down the pub. :D
  • DeeDee74
    DeeDee74 Posts: 2,941 Forumite
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    £53 is a rather random figure drawn out of the air, it appears. JSA is £70-something a week.

    $53 a week is what people under 25 get being on benefits so no not random
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