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Benefits trap mum on £70k a year says she can't afford to work

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    I thought that was SKY.

    You can get flatscreen TVs up on freecycle these days.

    Barnardo's turned their nose up at my 2001 (tank like) JVC, I wouldn't mind but it has a great picture and never a monents trouble icon9.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Barnardo's turned their nose up at my 2001 (tank like) JVC, I wouldn't mind but it has a great picture and never a monents trouble icon9.gif

    Well, my Bush 28" CRT won't die. I'm kinda willing it to as it's taking up a large section of the bedroom! However, it refuses and I'm quite attached after 10 years! Actually find the picture better than the LCD for normal TV.

    So good luck with your JVC giving up the ghost. Bush were meant to be rubbish!
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Barnardo's turned their nose up at my 2001 (tank like) JVC, I wouldn't mind but it has a great picture and never a monents trouble icon9.gif

    Not only do you have a Nokia 'phone that a 5 year old would be ashamed to own but you own a 2001 JVC TV!

    Must be like a technology museum at your house.

    What do you play your '78's on? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSINO6MKtco
  • N1AK
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    It could be argued why do you need a degree in certain specialisations anyway - such as golf course management, media studies, nursing and supplementary professions for example. Wouldn't some form of technical on the job accreditation, block release education, be better?

    Oh I definitely agree that our education system does seem to be forcing anything and everything into the form of a degree. In some ways that has benefits. It provides a standard level we all understand and requires a reasonable range of skills. I know someone who has studied golf course management as a degree is able to write and think critically (up to a point...); if it was some more bespoke qualification I would have no idea what it meant making it harder to employ them into other fields.

    The same argument against degrees could be taken for many of the subjects you mention though. Medicine and Law have no inherent need to be degrees either; in fact I doubt the founders of the first universities would ever have imagined that any 'career' specific subjects would be taught there.
    Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    N1AK wrote: »
    . In some ways that has benefits. It provides a standard level we all understand and requires a reasonable range of skills.

    The same argument against degrees could be taken for many of the subjects you mention though. Medicine and Law have no inherent need to be degrees either; in fact I doubt the founders of the first universities would ever have imagined that any 'career' specific subjects would be taught there.

    It makes you wonder how we coped 30/40 years ago when university attendance was much lower but we probably had many more roles requiring individual initiative and responsibility. Now so many roles are controled and monitored by real time IT and automated systems and many businesses have been morphed into a few offering identikit options.

    I wonder if it is still the rump 5-10% that make the difference regardless have how many processed soles go through the machine.

    Reducing the numbers would obviously cause large problems for the industry built up to support it and the towns and cities reliant on it. Not only are the students/graduates paying for the pensioners and welfare but more and more for those in the here and now.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • StevieJ
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    Well, my Bush 28" CRT won't die. I'm kinda willing it to as it's taking up a large section of the bedroom! However, it refuses and I'm quite attached after 10 years! Actually find the picture better than the LCD for normal TV.

    So good luck with your JVC giving up the ghost. Bush were meant to be rubbish!

    I would have to be in a ground floor flat or bungalow for my TV to survive in the bedroom :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
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    edited 4 April 2013 at 4:11PM
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Not only do you have a Nokia 'phone that a 5 year old would be ashamed to own but you own a 2001 JVC TV!

    Must be like a technology museum at your house.

    What do you play your '78's on? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSINO6MKtco

    I now have a Sony Xperia Ray, you have a good memory. Strangely enough I do have some of those pot records from the 20's to 40's I aquired them somewhere along the line. BTW I am on the look out for a Samsung 3d tv, I am really pushing the boat out :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Yeah it does come across as a bit arrogant but why the hell wouldn't you take it if offered? You've gotta be rich or mad to work in Britain in a lot of cases.

    If you're only going to make a few quid an hour you're better off on the dole if you have kids.
    The snag is that the kids then grow up, leave and the free money starts to reduce until she will be left with very little coming in and she won't be able to rent such a large house.

    Her HB won't reduce until they have finished uni as I believe you still get the allowance for a room until they graduate.

    Going back into the workplace may be easier for her as she is qualified but harder if you have been out of it whilst bringing up kids.

    Personally, I think she is trying to get publicity for her pending book and is just trying to raise her profile.
    She will be on benefits for the rest of her life if it is generous enough to pay this without her doing a stroke of work.
    ...as above, they will go down when kids become adults.


    I would be surprised if anything like half of people who read law end up getting a training contract or pupillage, let alone make a career out of it. There are hordes of people with law degrees - it is one of the subjects with the greatest oversupply of graduates.

    1 in 10 on my sons course got one and there were some real clever types on it. Simply not enough TC's to go round for the amount of graduates the collges churn out.

    Photography is worse...only enough jobs (including everything to do with photography like working for auto trader) for 3% of grads.
    The unis and colleges are almost like an industry themselves now selling courses when the employment propects are very low. No-one seems to have adjusted the amount of places with the what is out there in the workplace.

    One employee of ours was advised to specialise in weaving design on her textiles degree....and we have hardly any weaving mills left in the UK at all. I think it was to keep the weaving tutor in a job rather than to train the next generation of weavers.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    N1AK wrote: »
    ; in fact I doubt the founders of the first universities would ever have imagined that any 'career' specific subjects would be taught there.

    Cambridge and Oxford both had large facilities devoted to theology and the training of monks, priests and friars, I think.

    During Norman times, Sicily had a unique medical school as part of its university, which taught Christians, Jews and Muslims, and both men and women.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • jay213
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    Is she excluded from the £500 per week benefits cap?
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