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Benefits trap mum on £70k a year says she can't afford to work
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And I am pretty sure just having a certain degree doesn't make you neccessarily employable! I'm sure there are plenty of Oxbridge 1st's out there who are complete !!!!!! with no business sense.
Doesn't mean they are not employable so long as its a role where no business sense is actually required, there are plenty of them.0 -
I don't take anything printed in the daily mail or the sun seriously.
The figures are nonsense!
Parents do not get benefits for university students.
The student may get a maintenance grant which is paid to the students bank account and will have loans same as everyone else.0 -
And I am pretty sure just having a certain degree doesn't make you neccessarily employable! I'm sure there are plenty of Oxbridge 1st's out there who are complete !!!!!! with no business sense.
I didn't say you had to get a job, just that you had to have an employable degree.
Choosing the right degree is a step in the right direction, rather than surfing studies with fine arts modules!Sealed pot challange no: 3390 -
I didn't say you had to get a job, just that you had to have an employable degree.
Choosing the right degree is a step in the right direction, rather than surfing studies with fine arts modules!
And how is that determined?
If you have a highly rated course with 100 people in, and none of them have social skills, business acumen and fail to find employment. Would this be considered more employable than 100 people doing David Beckham studies but all of them go on to become Football Coaches?
Saying an "empoyable degree" is meaningless. The reason a degree has a good rate of employment isn't just because of what you study, but who studies it.0 -
Easy to fix. Stop all benefits to anyone that refuses two job offers.
Stop all benefits to anyone that hasn't applied for a suitable job in the last 2 weeks.Graham_Devon wrote: »That's alright, but that would include chucking parents off benefits who have received a job offer that doesn't fit in with childcare.
I suspect that the poster would have no problem with, or even relish, this.If you fold it in half, will an Audi A4 fit in a Citroen C5?
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You are getting confused.
Yes a degree in Engineering/Law/Medicine is a more employable degree than David Bekham studies and carries more benefit for the good of the nation.
You are going on results, an assumed results at that (unless of course you happen to know 100 Engineers that recently graduated and are yet to find work, in which case I apologise).
Clearly there needs to be a table but imo (sensationalist as it is) we should only offer funding to Engineering, Law and Medicine, everything else should be self funded.
If you happen to read another subject and go on to be a great success then hats off to you and you will no doubt earn good money and be able to pay it back.
My neighbour's boy, nice as he is, studies something like Italian Media Studies, he will never get a job and only picked that subject due to the number of credits not needed to get on, this is the sort of thing that needs wiping out imo!Sealed pot challange no: 3390 -
You are getting confused.
Yes a degree in Engineering/Law/Medicine is a more employable degree than David Bekham studies and carries more benefit for the good of the nation.
You are going on results, an assumed results at that (unless of course you happen to know 100 Engineers that recently graduated and are yet to find work, in which case I apologise).
Clearly there needs to be a table but imo (sensationalist as it is) we should only offer funding to Engineering, Law and Medicine, everything else should be self funded.
If you happen to read another subject and go on to be a great success then hats off to you and you will no doubt earn good money and be able to pay it back.
My neighbour's boy, nice as he is, studies something like Italian Media Studies, he will never get a job and only picked that subject due to the number of credits not needed to get on, this is the sort of thing that needs wiping out imo!
I am not getting confused at all.
You are saying that because someone studies subject X they are more likely to get a job, whereas that may not be true.
The amount of people that were critics of what I studied at university before I went was huge. Yet everyone I know on that course had a job before graduation.
Just like you above, judging based on the title of the degree and the low entry requirements, that makes the degree worth less. Well in fact, thats a load of crap. The entry for my degree was something along the line of 3 Ds at A Level!
It just happens that I know someone who was Oxbridge, got a 2:1 in Economics and something, yet left his job (where I currently work) after a few months before he wasn't good enough. Now compared to me, who studied Games, at an ex poly at around 100+ in the league tables, you would have dismissed my degree straight away, yet I pay a lot of tax and contribute more to society than a lot of others who did "more employable degrees", such as friends.
As I said earlier - how are you judging whether a degree is "employable" and more "beneficial"?
It's pretty offensive that you are judging your neighbours son for what he studies without any way to see what he might do in the future.
(oh but I do know a number of people from my university, studying other subjects that are currently on benefits, complaining about the bankers etc. but this isn't to do with the subjects they studied, just the fact they are f***** idiots
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lostinrates wrote: »Doesn't mean they are not employable so long as its a role where no business sense is actually required, there are plenty of them.
Parliament ifs full of them;)"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
And how is that determined?
If you have a highly rated course with 100 people in, and none of them have social skills, business acumen and fail to find employment. Would this be considered more employable than 100 people doing David Beckham studies but all of them go on to become Football Coaches?
Saying an "empoyable degree" is meaningless. The reason a degree has a good rate of employment isn't just because of what you study, but who studies it.
You are right you have to be employable. It isn'tjust about the dgree you get. there are plenty of intelligent/capable people that have no comment sense.
When a country is bankrupt where would our resources be best spent. On foottball coaches, golf management and media studies or bio chemistry, engineering and medicine?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I am not getting confused at all.
You are saying that because someone studies subject X they are more likely to get a job, whereas that may not be true.
I didn't say that they are more likely to get a job at all, I said the degree they studied is more employable, which it is.
You studied games, you got a job, you pay tax, you pay back your borrowing, what's difficult about that?Sealed pot challange no: 3390
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