Have broken my wood burner - help please

highrisklowreturn

Basically I had to break out my baffle plate, and did this with a hammer, throwing the hammer upwards against the plate to crack it.

I lit the stove for a couple of days afterwards, and it seemed to be sucking all the heat out of the room (this is without a baffle plate present) and not warming the place at all.

So I went out today to buy a new baffle plate, put it in, with new firebars and a new grate, and it hasn't lifted the room temperature by even 3 degrees whilst burning top grade house coal.

The ignition of the fuel is fine, even better than before, and I can still die the fire down with the air wheel, but all the heat stil appears to be escaping. On closer inspection of the stove, I think I've knocked upwards the top plate, under the edges of which I can see a firerope in parts.

My question is, is this what is losing me my heat - surely if heat were leaking from there it would still be going into the room?

Gloomendoom

It could be drawing air from the room in through the crack and up the flue. If I were you, I would get the crack sealed up as there could be a risk of CO escaping into the room when the fire dies back.

Why on earth did you have to smash out the baffle?

suisidevw

Because it's a poor quality stove?!

pauletruth

nah its the hammer. come on be serious who hits cast iron with a hammer. odds on you have !!!!!!ed it up. maybe get someone who know what they are doing to have a look. bet your needing a new stove. PS dont hit fragile metal with a heavy object. simple really.

alleycat`

I assume two things.

It was a cheapish stove with a "fixed" baffle plate that couldn't easily be removed.

The stove is cast iron as it has "come apart".

Based on the description, You've hit a cast iron stove with a hardened steel hammer! I'm surprised you didn't shatter part of it.

Depending on how it has come apart it may be possible to weld it but welding "cast" is a dying art form.

There is a very real chance you've knackered it.

muckybutt

Oooops, mr knowitall has well and truly !!!!!!ed things up this time

MrsCrafty

Well no actually. I have been running a cheap stove for four years now and it works very well thanks. What I don't understand is why the OP needed to hit a removable baffle plate with a hammer? If it was replaceable it was movable? Yes?

Will wait for an update. Have been busy chopping more wood as this winter is ongoing!

Greenfires

Not familiar with his particular stove, but I've seen several Chinese imports with the baffle plate bolted in place, and of course a few months use and any threads are completely rusted and corroded making what should be a very simple job a major operation.

You pays your money etc....

highrisklowreturn

Ok, have tried sealing the top plate up again, with fire rope, glue, and fire cement. It burnt a bit hotter last night and kept a bit more heat in the stove, but it hardly heats the room at all now.

Would an experienced sweep or stove operator be able to solve this and get it back together?

Also, was speaking to a neighbour today who was emptying a rental property of his and, as if sent by the good Lord himself, he produced a parkray room heater with attached back boiler on top. Now I would love to get that installed and connected up to the heating but it is obviously missing bits and bobs, ie rope, cover over where the ashpan goes etc - do people still service these nowadays and are the parts still available>?

muckybutt

highrisklowreturn wrote: »

Ok, have tried sealing the top plate up again, with fire rope, glue, and fire cement. It burnt a bit hotter last night and kept a bit more heat in the stove, but it hardly heats the room at all now.

Would an experienced sweep or stove operator be able to solve this and get it back together?

Also, was speaking to a neighbour today who was emptying a rental property of his and, as if sent by the good Lord himself, he produced a parkray room heater with attached back boiler on top. Now I would love to get that installed and connected up to the heating but it is obviously missing bits and bobs, ie rope, cover over where the ashpan goes etc - do people still service these nowadays and are the parts still available>?

To be honest HR a decent sweep wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, thus being the last person to work on it would make them liable should anything go side over apex, that being said rope seals and door glass are common repairs, as are removable grates and baffles.

As for the Parkray - go for it ! parts are still available, and i'm sure you will be surprised what the difference between that and the stove you have now is.

http://fireparts.com/parkray-stove-spares

highrisklowreturn

muckybutt wrote: »

To be honest HR a decent sweep wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, thus being the last person to work on it would make them liable should anything go side over apex, that being said rope seals and door glass are common repairs, as are removable grates and baffles.

As for the Parkray - go for it ! parts are still available, and i'm sure you will be surprised what the difference between that and the stove you have now is.

http://fireparts.com/parkray-stove-spares

Thanks - am going to put the parkray in lol and I'm delighted - what a Godsend - a chance discussion with a neighbour led to me getting a stove worth over 1k according to an installer I spoke to last night.

A dad of a friend came out to have a look at it and said its an 88 concert, the exact version he has. I'm delighted with this as as I've been in his house and it's like a sauna (he was the one who inspired me to take out the baffle plate but that's another matter) and he also said the backboiler is in it, around the sides.

He's given me a new part list to go and fetch today - new glass, top cosmetic part, firebars, ashpan door, operator tool, so will have a look for those, and got quoted £60/70 by a local plumber to hook it up to the 4 pipes - he says it only will use to of them - at the side of my chimney, hopefully with the circ pump of the oil system.

So now I can hopefully throw out and do away with the oil altogether.