Solicitors letter from gpb solicitors llp

pogofish

Happytohelp88 wrote: »

Please be aware, GPB afre LPC solicitors. You have admitted you didnt pay, they normally take photos of the car to show a fine was issued. If it was issued correctly and you didnt pay for a ticket then you need to pay it. People used to dispute them& say they wasnt driving and they had no legal right to provide details of the drivers but since Oct 2012 a new Law/Guidline has been introduced that there is more security for the owners of the land and you will be liable to provide details of the driver now, which before Oct 2012 this was only legally required under a Criminal Act. By law you enter into an agreement when parking your car in a private car park and agrre to the terms by parking there.

Do you have a valid dispute?

The balance may only be £78 but theses cases do go to Court depending on LPS instrcutions.

Bol!ocks!

Ignore this poster - Its either an utter imbecile or a stooge for LPS/GPB. Either way, its wrong on every count:

- Photos have no meaning in private parking enforcement.
- LPS cannot fine anyone. They simply do not have the authority - only councils, police and statutory bodies can issue fines.
- You do not have to pay anything. They can only issue an unenforcable invoice.
- POFA od Oct 12 did not change anything. All it allows is for private parking companies to address their rubbish to the registered keeper. It does not make them any more legal than they were before, which is almost invariably not at all

If LPS take cases to court and win, how about listing some examples we can verify then? I will not be holding my breath!

pogofish

It is also interesting to note that Happytohelp88 is posting similar guff on GPB threads in other forums and in its first two posts, Happytohelp88 claims to work for a solicitor involved in debt collection.

I think we can safely assume it is an incompetent stooge then?

Stroma

Happytohelp88 wrote: »

Please be aware, GPB afre LPC solicitors. You have admitted you didnt pay, they normally take photos of the car to show a fine was issued. If it was issued correctly and you didnt pay for a ticket then you need to pay it. People used to dispute them& say they wasnt driving and they had no legal right to provide details of the drivers but since Oct 2012 a new Law/Guidline has been introduced that there is more security for the owners of the land and you will be liable to provide details of the driver now, which before Oct 2012 this was only legally required under a Criminal Act. By law you enter into an agreement when parking your car in a private car park and agrre to the terms by parking there.

Do you have a valid dispute?

The balance may only be £78 but theses cases do go to Court depending on LPS instrcutions.

The OP admitted to us he hasn't paid, not the parking company and not the solicitors. The fact you are calling it a fine just shows how uninformed you are, this is not a fine at all, only the courts can issue fines, and the police and councils can issue penalties, this speculative invoice is neither of these.

POFA 2012 is meaningless as all it does is give keeper liability if in England or Wales, if the OP is the keeper it makes little difference. POFA 2012 hasn't changed contract law at all. And you saying that the OP entered into an agreement with the parking company , tell me how do you know that, were you there? How do you know there were signs there?

The parking company can only claim for losses, so if it was for example £5 to park there over night then that's all they can claim for. But as they are not likely to be the landowner, there is no loss to them. You say you work in a solicitors office, I suggest you go and ask one of your colleagues about contract law, instead of the drivel you have put here.

I'm sorry it's harsh but putting uninformed posts here confuses the issue, and I'm happy that people who actually know about this issue have debunked your post.

HO87

Oh dear! LPS appear to call their invoices "Excess Charge Notices" - check here (don't worry Happytohelp88 - I've taken screen grabs in case you were thinking that taking the page down or amending things quickly might make things go away). ECN's, although now a very rare beast as a result of the almost universal conversion to DPE, remain a statutorily enforceable notice issued by a local authority. That is not what this company issue and by describing their invoices thus they are misrepresenting their authority.

prosnap

Happytohelp88 wrote: »

Please be aware, GPB afre LPC solicitors. You have admitted you didnt pay, they normally take photos of the car to show a fine was issued. If it was issued correctly and you didnt pay for a ticket then you need to pay it. People used to dispute them& say they wasnt driving and they had no legal right to provide details of the drivers but since Oct 2012 a new Law/Guidline has been introduced that there is more security for the owners of the land and you will be liable to provide details of the driver now, which before Oct 2012 this was only legally required under a Criminal Act. By law you enter into an agreement when parking your car in a private car park and agrre to the terms by parking there.

Do you have a valid dispute?

The balance may only be £78 but theses cases do go to Court depending on LPS instrcutions.

Times must be hard!

Are websites like this starting to eat into your profits enough for you to lower yourself to posts like this?


GOOD .... :T:T:T

Erginus

Many thanks to Happytohelp88 for raising our awareness of LPS and how they operate.

HO87 wrote: »

Oh dear! LPS appear to call their invoices "Excess Charge Notices" ... That is not what this company issue and by describing their invoices thus they are misrepresenting their authority.

This is turning out to be quite a bank holiday weekend! Yesterday we have UKPC going into meltdown. And now LPS enter a world of pain. Nice one Happytohelp88.

mike_the_bike_2

Just for info LPS is run by two former Stratford upon Avon District Council employees who saw the dosh the Council was making from harrassing motorists so set up on their own .. They employee loads of Goons to drive around in little white Fiesta van at all hours. You can see them shining their torches on car windscreens in pubs car parks and private land at 11.00pm at night 7 days a week..

Obviously by issuing "Excess Charge Notices" they still think they work for the council!

Personally i'd just ignore them and let them take everyone they invoice to court.

Kite2010

Sometimes it's not even the pub's fault LPS are "invited" to 'manage' their car-parks, blame the breweries which owns the pubs getting a small kick-back per ticket.

I know one person whose currently holds the lease to a pub would love to see the back of the parasites as his trade has gone down.

Notlaw

I got a ticket in a super market car park.
I have read some where that pcn issue date has to be 28 days after the incident ?

Stroma

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