A fairer system for dealing with offences of speeding

pinkfluffybabe

Markyt wrote: »

However, I realise that probably doesn't fit with your preconceptions of me as a driver, so you've chosen to ignore it.

Have you forgotten? People who speed or who question the legal position on speeding aren't just bad drivers, they are also litter dropping, granny mugging, drink driving lunatics who take drugs recreationally and don't pay their TV licence

Optimist

Swinton, one of Britain's biggest insurers, announced last night that those with six or nine penalty points will now be treated almost as if they had unblemished records.

Insurers said speeding fines are so common that they no longer signify a motorist is a greater risk on the roads.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/insurance/car-insurance/article.html?in_article_id=420422&in_page_id=35

tomstickland

I heard about that on the radio

A Swinton spokesman said: 'Penalty points used to be the yardstick for dangerous drivers, but with up to 10million drivers collecting them, they are so common place that they have almost become pointless.


'We will be looking at each driver as an individual and not automatically upping the cost of their premium if they have six penalty points on their licence.' The insurer has set up a special unit to deal with a 12 per cent rise in inquiries from those with endorsements.

Previously these drivers would have faced premiums up to four times higher than those with clean licences.

In the extremes maybe, but not typically. My experience was that it cost me around 10% more when I had 6 points (no points anymore).

ttoli

moonrakerz wrote: »

Now, if you had said that perfectly sensible statement in your OP in the other thread YOU wouldn't have come across as a sanctimonious whinger !

You are however continuing with the erroneous idea that speed cameras catch people traveling at "excessive speed" - they don't ! Six people in an overloaded Fiesta doing 55mph in the dark and wet (on a 60 mph road) is "excessive" and quite possibly highly dangerous. Doing 35 mph in a 30 mph zone on a clear dry road may be breaking the speed limit - but in many cases it cannot be described as excessive. THIS is what p****s off the vast majority of the motoring public, they get fined for a minor infringement by a camera, and yet they still see the lunatic few driving with total disregard for their own, and other's safety. Meanwhile the few traffic police we have left are back in the station having a lecture on 'diversity'.

A much better system is a good b********g and a finger wagging from a real policeman.

Quite agree, if i'm perfectly honest (when i lived in the UK)i would regulary drive over the indicated speed limit, at all times in control of the car, aware of my surroundings and reading the road ahead, and(perhaps i was lucky) never had an RTC in 25 years of driving, Speed doesn't kill, poor driving does

jonuk7

the simpliest way to deal with any form of speeding is one punishment, not several for degree of offence, at theend of the day if your doing 31 in a 30 or 40 in a 30 your speeding it makes you no diffrent if you get caught doing 31 and i did 40 were as bad as each other its the risk you take when you speed not anybody elses fault.

BAN everyone caught speeding people would soon learn!!!

scheming_gypsy

people wouldn't learn at all they'd drive whilst banned.

pinkfluffybabe

jonuk7 wrote: »

the simpliest way to deal with any form of speeding is one punishment, not several for degree of offence, at theend of the day if your doing 31 in a 30 or 40 in a 30 your speeding it makes you no diffrent if you get caught doing 31 and i did 40 were as bad as each other its the risk you take when you speed not anybody elses fault.

BAN everyone caught speeding people would soon learn!!!

That has to be the most ridiculous suggestion I have ever read on this site :rolleyes:

Seren_2

tomstickland wrote: »

It's such a big job I can see why many have given up before they started.
38 in a 30 would mean an indicated 40 on the speedo, so I reckon you could pull the limits down for the 30.

Really, to do the job properly there would have to be a review of the limits on various roads. In my area about 80% of the limits seem sensible, but there are several places where you have to question the intelligence of those setting them.

In my area the speed limit on a road was changed overnight from 40 to 30mph. I was happily driving along at 40mph and saw the police van with the mobile speed trap as I drove round the corner I thought I was OK and then "well I'm blowed" a new 30mph sign with flashing lights round it saying this is now a 30mph limit, very unfair.

Headlines in the local paper reported £1.5 million pounds had been collected in fines from another dual carriageway, because of so many protests it has been changed from a 30 to 40mph.

There are quite a few accident black spots, where there has been many deaths, but would you believe it, never a speed trap area and no cameras in sight, just signs saying "slow down".