A fairer system for dealing with offences of speeding

Markyt

speeding fines are issued solely to raise revenue.

In Portugal, they concentrate on the safety aspect. How do they do this?

A speeding car trips a sensor. This turns a set of traffic lights further down the road to red, and 'holds' them for a period of time.

This means there is no advanatage to speeding, and safety is improved as the speeders are forced to slow and stop there and then - not receive a letter a few weeks later and too late to prevent an accident.

Obviously, we can't do it as it doesn't make any money.

anewman

A fairer system for dealing with offences of speeding

Castration? Chopping off of hands and feet?

Sorry but you just have to keep the speeders on the road and fine them as often as possible to keep the cash flow coming in.

If you read this it looks like it's not too difficult to challenge speeding fines anyway. http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=enonline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED10%20May%202007%2011%3A58%3A38%3A123

Voyager2002

I would suggest that anyone caught more than once exceeding the speed limit by more than 10 mph should just lose their license.

No-one has a right to drive. If they choose to be drivers then they should do so within the law. If they believe that the law is wrong then there are all sorts of ways in which they can argue that the law should be changed. But the sort of person who decides that they can simply ignore a law because the find it inconvenient, or don't happen to agree with it, is not the sort of person who should ever be in charge of a motor vehicle on a public road.

before_hollywood

Markyt wrote: »

speeding fines are issued solely to raise revenue.

In Portugal, they concentrate on the safety aspect. How do they do this?

A speeding car trips a sensor. This turns a set of traffic lights further down the road to red, and 'holds' them for a period of time.

This means there is no advanatage to speeding, and safety is improved as the speeders are forced to slow and stop there and then - not receive a letter a few weeks later and too late to prevent an accident.

Obviously, we can't do it as it doesn't make any money.

and lets face it, they are an easy target cos they don't commit any serious crimes, or to be honest any real crimes in the vast majority of cases

before_hollywood

in reply to the op, i think your system is a lot fairer than the current one

Happychappy

"What annoys me is not the Police issueing speeding tickets like toilet roll after a bad chinese. It's the fact they make so much damn money from doing so - which makes everyone query thier motives. (Profit?)"

There is always one who spoils it :mad: how are we supposed to run our yachts in Monaco if we can't raise money off the poor people ? jeez no sympathy for working coppers trying to make a living, now weve been rumbled I'm going to have to sell my helicopter :rolleyes: Why go to work when you can't bring a bit of misery into someones life ! Oh well back to the pub talk and to think my mate got done for doing 31 in a 30 ? middle of the night open road, 24 lanes with nothing around.

RainbowsInTheSpray

Voyager2002 wrote: »

I would suggest that anyone caught more than once exceeding the speed limit by more than 10 mph should just lose their license.

No-one has a right to drive. If they choose to be drivers then they should do so within the law. If they believe that the law is wrong then there are all sorts of ways in which they can argue that the law should be changed. But the sort of person who decides that they can simply ignore a law because the find it inconvenient, or don't happen to agree with it, is not the sort of person who should ever be in charge of a motor vehicle on a public road.

Ah but you forget that, in our dearly beloved whingeing community, you have a set of folk who are not complaining about being caught out the occasional time when they inadvertently stray over the limit by a few m.p.h.

Oh no. What they are complaining about is the law's insistence, via monetary and other sanctions, at being obeyed at all in this area.

They wish to reserve unto themselves individually, not the traffic people, the police or parliament, the right to decide how fast they will drive on any stretch of road. Effectively they are arguing for anarchy, since everyone has different ideas on that score. Needless to say, they won't admit this overtly but you can see pretty clearly the drift of their arguments.

Your argument is charged with much commonsense and a fairness towards all users ... which is precisely why it won't be accepted by these egotripping johnnies.

scheming_gypsy

Voyager2002 wrote: »

I would suggest that anyone caught more than once exceeding the speed limit by more than 10 mph should just lose their license.

is that on every road? even the motorway?
does it also include the police, ambulances and fire engines?







oh and RainbowinTheSpray before you start typing your sanctimonious, worthless and bullsh*t reply.. don't bother. We'll wait till you actually drive before we care what you say.

Markyt

RainbowsInTheSpray wrote: »

They wish to reserve unto themselves individually, not the traffic people, the police or parliament, the right to decide how fast they will drive on any stretch of road.

Did you bother reading my post above? I think you'll find that proposes a different system to fines, already in use by other countries, which actually promotes road safety rather than punishment after the event.

However, I realise that probably doesn't fit with your preconceptions of me as a driver, so you've chosen to ignore it.

tomstickland

RainbowsInTheSpray wrote: »

They wish to reserve unto themselves individually, not the traffic people, the police or parliament, the right to decide how fast they will drive on any stretch of road. Effectively they are arguing for anarchy, since everyone has different ideas on that score. Needless to say, they won't admit this overtly but you can see pretty clearly the drift of their arguments.

Your argument is charged with much commonsense and a fairness towards all users ... which is precisely why it won't be accepted by these egotripping johnnies.

How exactly did you arrive at this conclusion?
Is it by the same method that lead to the statement "I'd lay money on these same people thinking nothing of driving home after drinking a few pints"?

Quite strange that you manage to make such generalisations.