Going to look at puppies

pawsies

lee111s wrote: »

Been and saw the pups today, as expected they were lovely. Didn't make my decision straight away, went to the pub for some lunch to mull it over with my girlfriend and decided that the breeders were genuine. They had all the paperwork I asked for including information about the stud. The mother came from a breed I've read about and they are friends with those I've bought mine from. It's their first time breeding (I guess you have to start somewhere) and 3 of the dogs had been sold before they were born due to them being friends of a good breeder who pointed people in their direction.

The dam had a lovely nature, was protective obviously with the pups only being 3 weeks old but was happy for us to handle them and seem very relaxed once we'd been there a few minutes.

Yes I guess it is a risk buying for a breeder who's not "recognised" but as I mentioned new breeders have to have a first litter sometime. By checking all the paperwork and the couple being genuine I think I've done all I can to minimise any possible risk. I'll post a picture soon.

I'm sorry but this concerns me. Tolerating you handling them isn't the same as happy to have you around them.

Also although it is very rare I recommend you reading up on Springer Rage as it is something that appears to be breed specific but is also very important.

Paradigm

pawsies wrote: »

I'm sorry but this concerns me. Tolerating you handling them isn't the same as happy to have you around them.

I've yet to see a b!tch that is happy to have strangers near her young pups, strangely they seem to have a guarding instinct.

Tolerate yes, happy no.

con1888

The dam being protective at 3 weeks thing i'm not 100% sure if this is common place as any breeders I know don't allow pups to be viewed until 5 weeks. However I am a GSD person so may be different for different breeds.

I don't get all the ' don't go to a breeder ' comments. Rescue is fab ( had one and volunteer for one) BUT if someone wants a puppy there is nothing wrong with that providing they go to a REPUTABLE breeder. One who says they ' cant be bothered' with paperwork that takes at most 30mins to complete leaves me wondering what else can't they be bothered with. My boys breeders are fantastic, really could not ask for better, always there if I need help and for the rest of his life and beyond i'm sure if I was to have another dog they would be there for me too, they have become friends.

Anyways I rabble on ( im passionate about avoiding Back yard breeders) good luck in finding the right pup for you and your family.

Rowan9

Lovely pup. What a sweetie. Wishing you many happy years with your doggie
W

melbury

gettingready wrote: »

And they will keep on dying as long as rescues have some tottaly unrealistic rules as to who can adopt a dog from a rescue, ignore people's enquiries, run a tick box exercise when nobody is "good enough" to adopt from them etc etc

Totally agree with this. I appreciate that rescues want their dogs to go to good homes, but the rules are now so absolutely ridiculous it just puts people off.

We adopted a wonderful rescue dog some 20 years ago and we just visited the centre, said we would like her, they sent someone to check our home and garden and basically that was it, all done and dusted in a day or two. She was absolutely wonderful and we had her for 10 or so happy years until she was 14.

We have looked into doing the same thing again over the years, but it has been made so difficult we haven't bothered and have bought puppies instead.

It is a shame really because there are so many dogs that would enjoy a good home that are probably losing out because of all the red tape and hoops that people are expected to jump through.:mad:

Also, when you are looking at a dog in a rescue centre miles from where you live, it is not practical to make numerous bonding trips.

rubyrose

My friend did both, she wanted a Border Collie pup to train up (having worked with them before) and went to a specific Border Collie rescue that had been recommended by a colleague, best of both worlds.

Wine_of_the_World

Just to stress the importance making sure the breeder has done ALL of the required health checks on both parents before breeding - and can show you the paperwork (look up which tests are recommended).

When I was looking to buy my dog one of the breeders told me the parents were healthy - no heart murmers- but didnt have the certificates to actually prove it - as she was a vet :eek: so I of course didnt buy from her! I bought from a good breeder who did do the required health checks and my dog, at nearly 5, has no signs of health problems common to the breed

shirlgirl2004

lee111s wrote: »

Been and saw the pups today, as expected they were lovely. Didn't make my decision straight away, went to the pub for some lunch to mull it over with my girlfriend and decided that the breeders were genuine. They had all the paperwork I asked for including information about the stud. The mother came from a breed I've read about and they are friends with those I've bought mine from. It's their first time breeding (I guess you have to start somewhere) and 3 of the dogs had been sold before they were born due to them being friends of a good breeder who pointed people in their direction.

The dam had a lovely nature, was protective obviously with the pups only being 3 weeks old but was happy for us to handle them and seem very relaxed once we'd been there a few minutes.

Yes I guess it is a risk buying for a breeder who's not "recognised" but as I mentioned new breeders have to have a first litter sometime. By checking all the paperwork and the couple being genuine I think I've done all I can to minimise any possible risk. I'll post a picture soon.

I think my main question would be why did they breed. If they're keeping a pup then fine but if they never had any intention of keeeping one then they're in it for the money and for me that would put them out of the picture.

Not being registered isn't the be all and end all. When I bred I gave the purchaser the choice and if the pup was registered they paid the KC fee, no more. You can hand over a 5 generation pedigree without KC papers. Unless you want to show or breed there is very little value to the papers.

I hope you enjoy your pup and it gives you many years of exercise!

Person_one

melbury wrote: »

Totally agree with this. I appreciate that rescues want their dogs to go to good homes, but the rules are now so absolutely ridiculous it just puts people off.

We adopted a wonderful rescue dog some 20 years ago and we just visited the centre, said we would like her, they sent someone to check our home and garden and basically that was it, all done and dusted in a day or two. She was absolutely wonderful and we had her for 10 or so happy years until she was 14.

We have looked into doing the same thing again over the years, but it has been made so difficult we haven't bothered and have bought puppies instead.

It is a shame really because there are so many dogs that would enjoy a good home that are probably losing out because of all the red tape and hoops that people are expected to jump through.:mad:

Also, when you are looking at a dog in a rescue centre miles from where you live, it is not practical to make numerous bonding trips.

I adopted two rescue dogs, from a centre 4 hours drive away, when I was living a in a small flat with no outside space and working.

Honestly, I have to say, I think some of the criticism of rescues we hear so much of is excuses.

I know loads of people with rescue dogs, they aren't holding them all hostage! If one says no, either reason with them or go to another, there are hundreds, and places like Battersea and Manchester Dogs Home are practically rescue dog shops, just show up and take one away. How much easier could it be?

lee111s

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I think my main question would be why did they breed. If they're keeping a pup then fine but if they never had any intention of keeeping one then they're in it for the money and for me that would put them out of the picture.

Not being registered isn't the be all and end all. When I bred I gave the purchaser the choice and if the pup was registered they paid the KC fee, no more. You can hand over a 5 generation pedigree without KC papers. Unless you want to show or breed there is very little value to the papers.

I hope you enjoy your pup and it gives you many years of exercise!

They are indeed keeping a puppy.