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Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

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  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Me neither :)

    They're so .... "people who care what others think"
    :)

    I don't iron, ever.

    We do have some things that need ironing - OH's work shirts, some of my work shirts, and our court bands and my court collars.

    OH does all ironing in our household.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Its been a crappy week and it is only wednesday! computer virus (still not sorted though 3 different progs say A-OK) work is up in the air and my polo lost a battle with a bollard last night (see motoring forum for pic~)

    Give me strength!

    On a positive note, I hope you enjoy derren brown tonight LJ his shows look amazing

    Combo fix. (But make sure you get help from somewhere like malware bytes forum first)
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    bugslet wrote: »
    The bugslet theory on dressing is that you can never be overdressed. You can be in full length evening dress and the other 100 people in jeans and ts - they are underdressed, you have it spot on.


    :

    I do like you. A lot. I am thinking about going to a DIY shed this afternoon, I am thinking full length silk evening skirt and heels (meaning walking stick) with a long sleeved t, just for practically.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    There have been, over the years, a few threads on the relationship board about this sentiment. I can never really know what's its like to have a child. But I have a strong rebellion against the 'parental love ideal' idea because in practise, IME, it is very far from common. I also reject it on a personal level because I think its a very damaging idea.

    Eta: to clarify....I think a lot of childless people ( but not all) might struggle with the idea of putting a little dependant person first, of the practicalities of child rearing...little sleep, the embarrassment of tantrums, the conflict of working and parenting etcetc, but many have transferable experience as carers, sometimes even for children. Others just are empathetic. I am not naturally empathetic and have to work hard to be, but others I can see find it easier!

    I don't see parental love as some sort of divine perfect love, entirely self-denying and whole-hearted.

    People aren't like that, ever.

    There are a lot of people, though, who would happily sacrifice more for their children than they would for other people, which is understandable and fair enough.

    I'm not the patient type in general. I'd make a rubbish nurse, nanny or teacher.

    And most parents would admit, I think, that sometimes a fractious baby or toddler can drive you to extremes.

    When Isaac was 4 weeks old, he was suffering from what we later discovered was severe reflux. Before he was diagnosed with it a week or two later, he hardly slept, and more or less screamed, solidly, for an entire week. That's very, very wearing on the strongest of parental nerves, and not knowing why the baby's yelling, or what you can do to help, is very misery-making.

    My mother said one day during that period (she'd come over to stay for 48 hours, which is mother-love in action, as no-one would spend 48 hours with a non-stop-screaming newborn for fun) that "sometimes being a good mother means you manage not to throw the baby out of the window". I found that very reassuring, because I wasn't filled with selfless mother-love, I was despairing.

    I don't think that parental love is something you can't understand if you don't have children, though. There is often a smug exclusiveness about some parents, which is annoying. Love comes in many forms, and many guises.

    I don't see Isaac as "mine", although I obviously use phrases when relevant such as "my son". He's a small person I've been entrusted to look after, bring through childhood, and launch on the sea of adult life in due time.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • misskool
    misskool Posts: 12,832 Forumite
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    Are you ok?

    will be better when they stick a knife in me :D

    how's the fluffy chicks?
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!


    I don't think that parental love is something you can't understand if you don't have children, though. There is often a smug exclusiveness about some parents, which is annoying. Love comes in many forms, and many guises.

    .

    You say it pretty much how I see, but for this bit which is always the stumper. I agree, many (even most) people can probably understand or stretch themselves to. And love DOES come in different forms. Some of the forms are barely recognisable as love to me ( and as i said, iI think the myth in the perfect parental love is something that leads some to see some behaviours as loving that really are not) whilst some are hard to understand, yet easy to feel.

    But....oh, I have run out of steam now....something about the lack of knowledge about how other people experience the same thing and how shared love is a lot about trust and belief rather than absolute knowledge...and how me loving my parents strikes me as different from the way, for example, you love yours. Really lost my train of thought there....:o
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    misskool wrote: »
    will be better when they stick a knife in me :D

    how's the fluffy chicks?

    They are ok, still fluffy!

    Hope your date is soon :(. I'm sorry you have pain today.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    tomterm8 wrote: »
    So, what is the word for fighting a running battle with the huge (potentially radioactive) house spiders?

    When autumn comes, get some conkers. I also have a humane spider remover. I don't agree with killing them as they get all the other nastier bugs that I wouldn't want one in my house. Though drtifosi did kill the one that was in my dressing gown that bit me in my armpit.
    LydiaJ wrote: »
    This usually works for me. However, some garments end up nearly good enough for work, but not quite. In that case, I hang them (on hangers) in the bathroom, where they will be subjected to steam every time anybody has a shower. After a couple of days, all the creases have usually dropped out without any effort on my part. :D

    A woman after my own heart:o. I wash, I hang up immediately, I rely on steam where appropriate. About once every three months I have to iron something where the above has failed. Usually with gritted teeth.
    It was that Viva woman... I'll tell ya.......
    :)
    Single handedly bringing down Governments while sipping wine on a sofa!

    Yep, it was me (I'll be back in a minute, just going to answer a knock at the door looks like a man in a dark su
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Off to see Derren Brown tonight! Excited!

    i've seen him before and he's very entertaining.
    Its been a crappy week and it is only wednesday! computer virus (still not sorted though 3 different progs say A-OK) work is up in the air and my polo lost a battle with a bollard last night (see motoring forum for pic~)

    As long as you are OK. I blame the bollard!
    I do like you. A lot. I am thinking about going to a DIY shed this afternoon, I am thinking full length silk evening skirt and heels (meaning walking stick) with a long sleeved t, just for practically.

    I feel you have nailed it :D
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,938 Forumite
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    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Off to see Derren Brown tonight! Excited!


    It'll be great! :beer: Saw him ages ago!

    His stage show's better than his TV shows.

    Also we nearly went as a family on my birthday to see him a couple of years back but DS broke his arm and we spent the evening in casualty instead. :eek:
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
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