Do you actually pay to park in car parks?

Stroma

ManxRed wrote: »

That's your choice, if you want to behave unreasonably no one on here is going to be able to stop you.

Just cut out the b*llsh*t part about 'following the advice on here'.

Exactly because it is utter rubbish that he's been advised to do this, basically lying and trying to confuse the issue, he hasn't changed from the last time he trolled here, I don't know what he's like in other parts of the forum, but he offers nothing constructive here on this sub forum at all

ManxRed

ILW wrote: »

I have stopped paying following the info given here.

Stop twisting your own argument, the advice on here does indeed state that penalty charges issued by PPCs are - in the main - legally unenforceable. However your first post in this thread didn't say that, did it? I've quoted it above.

Your original statement was that you are not paying the fees following the advice given on here (not the penalty notices subsequently issued), yet when pushed you can't find any quotes from any regulars actually advising this.

So its b*llsh*t, pure and simple.

ILW

ManxRed wrote: »

Stop twisting your own argument, the advice on here does indeed state that penalty charges issued by PPCs are - in the main - legally unenforceable. However your first post in this thread didn't say that, did it? I've quoted it above.

Your original statement was that you are not paying the fees following the advice given on here (not the penalty notices subsequently issued), yet when pushed you can't find any quotes from any regulars actually advising this.

So its b*llsh*t, pure and simple.

Not sure where this is going, but after getting the advice on here that PPC charges are not enforceable, i decided I did not need to pay for a ticket in many cases. Quite simple really. It is currenty saving me around £8 to £12.00 per week in hospital visiting parking fees.

ManxRed

Backtracking now?

Who'd a thunk it eh?





We all know you're making all this up anyway because (a) you're a WUM, and (b) you seem to have some agenda to discredit the advice being given on here.

jkdd77

I always pay the legitimate fee to park (e.g. £10 for a day's parking), as a matter of basic decency and honesty, as well as attempting to adhere to any instructions on the signs. I don't think the forum regulars have ever advocated doing otherwise.

To wilfully and deliberately park without paying this lawful fee may even amount to committing the criminal offences of "theft of a service", or "dishonestly obtaining services".

As a purely practical matter, the chance of prosecution for a 'one-off' incident is very remote, but, if a person keeps on parking without paying, then the risk increases.

I do not pay PPC penalty charges (e.g. £100).

maninahat

When it comes to parking in a free carpark for a retail park etc I will always buy a product/service from the site where I park. For example my current PPC invoice is for allegedly leaving a retail park site while my car was parked there. Thing is I'd spent £40+ in an independent shop on that site I believe that I had "paid" for any parking through that purchase. There were plenty of free spaces for other patrons as well. Next time I may go to the Pay and Display multi-storey in the new nearby shopping centre, meaning I won't buy anything in that first retail park.

When it comes to pay and display I will always pay for a ticket, be it a private car park or a council one, as there is an obvious exchange of money for a service.

Now, if PPC's actions were themselves legal, people may be more ready to be understanding.

And regarding that age old question of "What if someone parked on your drive?" I would want the offending car removed ASAP. Therefore sending an invoice 2 weeks later wouldn't be much use, neither would immobilising it with a parking clamp. I'd explore my legal options involving the police etc.

Kite2010

I pay to park in private car-parks, the landowner is providing a service.

Although I will try and compare against any council-run car-parks.