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  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    paddedjohn wrote: »
    3: ‘Road or other place’
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    The description 'road or other public place' includes, but is wider than, the definition of the term 'road' in general legislation. 'Road' may include a place where there is not a public right of way, but where there is access for the public. A public place is in general a place which is not a road but to which the public has access, such as a field used for parking at an agricultural show, or a car park for an inn, or a driveway from a public road to a hotel even although the proprietors had a right to exclude certain members of the public. A car park next to a public house may be a public place as well as a road, but one marked ‘private’ at a block of flats is not, while a garage forecourt is probably a public place. One of the principal issues in this topic is whether the public have access. Thus an isolated farmyard is not a public place, but a private road used by members of the public is likely to be.

    Just because you have no gate it does not imply that the public have access.


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    Can you simplify that for tit?
  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    LOL! No he isn't. At least he isn't being childish by using big black letters!

    I've put it in big letters cause you're failing with normal font.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    Well you relative was probably stupid when interview. Or maybe like you tried to be clever and dropped himself in the 5hit.

    Maybe the police and mags were ignorant. But who drove away from court?

    God, I really wish you could say that to his face! I would certainly buy a ticket!!

    No, seriously the fact of the matter was that he was ignorant (just like you are) of the fact that you can still get done in (or in close proximity of) your car even when you are not driving it and it is parked on private land.

    Like it or not, certain RTA matters can be enforced on private land to which there is public access such as super market car parks, pub car parks, private roads (or driveways) and even boat yards.

    One thing I will say is that certain areas could be grey and cases probably would depend on their own scenarios.

    My drive for example leads on to a 4 space parking area so I would expect the RTA to apply in my case as it has no gates. My local Tesco's drive leads onto a 600 space parking area... Perhaps it depends on how long your drive is before it becomes a road?
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    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    Can you simplify that for tit?

    Brilliant! Reducing down to the level of a child again with an adolescent insult! Isn't it passed your bed time and you were suckling form one?
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    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    God, I really wish you could say that to his face! I would certainly buy a ticket!!

    No, seriously the fact of the matter was that he was ignorant (just like you are) of the fact that you can still get done in (or in close proximity of) your car even when you are not driving it and it is parked on private land.

    Like it or not, certain RTA matters can be enforced on private land to which there is public access such as super market car parks, pub car parks, private roads (or driveways) and even boat yards.

    One thing I will say is that certain areas could be grey and cases probably would depend on their own scenarios.

    My drive for example leads on to a 4 space parking area so I would expect the RTA to apply in my case as it has no gates. My local Tesco's drive leads onto a 600 space parking area... Perhaps it depends on how long your drive is before it becomes a road?

    I'd tell him to his face no worries

    In the circumstances you have given, if he was convicted and banned from driving it was proven he was likely to drive when !!!!ed. Yet you say I'm ignorant. Was I the thick !!!! who got banned?
  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    Brilliant! Reducing down to the level of a child again with an adolescent insult! Isn't it passed your bed time and you were suckling form one?

    Get your 8 year old to explain this to you in the morning
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    I'd tell him to his face no worries

    WOW! He lives on the south coast (Southampton area)... i'm sure he would love to give you the opportunity.
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    In the circumstances you have given, if he was convicted and banned from driving it was proven he was likely to drive when !!!!ed. Yet you say I'm ignorant. Was I the thick !!!! who got banned?

    You don't know how wrong you are! You probably arn't even old enough to drive anyway! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Your'e not justin bieber by any chance are you?:D
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    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    WOW! He lives on the south coast (Southampton area)... i'm sure he would love to give you the opportunity.



    You don't know how wrong you are! You probably arn't even old enough to drive anyway! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Your'e not justin bieber by any chance are you?:D

    Stop being a bell end.

    Look at drunk in charge. He was convicted, yes?

    Truck drivers have a defence, so to convict there was more to it than being over the limit and asleep. Maybe his solicitor was crap.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    Stop being a bell end.

    PMSL!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: POT KETTLE!
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    Look at drunk in charge. He was convicted, yes?

    Yes because apparently he was guilty. He was in fact in charge of a motor vehicle as he had the keys in his possession. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE DRIVING AT THE TIME AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY COMMIT THE OFFENCE BY MERELY STANDING NEXT TO THE CAR
    Chopper_Read wrote: »
    Truck drivers have a defence, so to convict there was more to it than being over the limit and asleep. Maybe his solicitor was crap.

    Clever move! But sorry, it's not the same thing. :cry: A truck driver has a defense if his vehicle is adapted to be slept in (same with a motor home). Nice try though.

    Anyway, i'll leave you to it. I have to be up for school in the morning. Thanks for the entertainment! ;)
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    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Chopper_Read
    Chopper_Read Posts: 755 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    PMSL!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: POT KETTLE!



    Yes because apparently he was guilty. He was in fact in charge of a motor vehicle as he had the keys in his possession. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE DRIVING AT THE TIME AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY COMMIT THE OFFENCE BY MERELY STANDING NEXT TO THE CAR



    Clever move! But sorry, it's not the same thing. :cry: A truck driver has a defense if his vehicle is adapted to be slept in (same with a motor home). Nice try though.

    Anyway, i'll leave you to it. I have to be up for school in the morning. Thanks for the entertainment! ;)


    Your relative was guilty because there's more to that story than you are letting on. What did he say when interviewed?
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