Royal Mail

battleborn

Moglex wrote: »

Yes, it was at their own risk, no, that does not make them to blame for the theft. Can you not understand the difference?

They are not at blame for the theft but they are at blame for going against the advice, however I accept they were ignorant of this.

I hope the theif gets caught and dealt with accordingly.

ThumbRemote

Fair enough - decent clarification

Azari

ThumbRemote wrote: »

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand crime prevention and the crime itself.

If I leave a satnav on show in my car and it is stolen, I have failed to follow crime prevention advice. However the crime is comitted by the thief. Hence, if caught, they end up in court.

Your bizarre statement that "the blame lays at the sender" suggests they should be prosecuted for the crime.

I fully understand that crime prevention is important, and the sender really shouldn't have sent cash, but it doesn't change the fact the blame is with the criminal.

This seems to be getting a bit bogged down now.

It's all a matter of the exact wording.

The sender has a small part of the blame for the loss.

The thief is entirely to blame for the theft.

RM would only share the blame if they had been received enough complaints of theft to have discovered the culprit and done nothing about it.

motch

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Someone might be dishonest enough to do that but would they be stupid enough?
What would be the point in wasting time (and possibly money) doing what you suggest when there is absolutely zero chance of getting any compensation from RM.

stamps.. see the post above yours.

motch

Moglex wrote: »

If someone is burgled, is it their fault if they don't have an alarm?

no it's not their fault, but they won't get any compensation if they left all the windows and doors wide open whilst away.

motch

warehouse wrote: »

But some of your colleagues are, so what are your company doing to protect the mail?

Why shouldn't I be able to send cash in the post? Are we to assume it WILL be stolen?

Yes there will be some amongst the 155,000 or so people employed by the royal mail. How many i don't know. Perhaps someone on here will know the national average per 1,000 people or something and then we can times it by 155 or whatever to find out an average...

Royal mail as someone else has posted have their own police as such. They investigate follow up calls and if enough evidence will prosecute. They are very proactive because if they didn't bother following up leads/catching thieves they wouldn't be needed and out of a job.


You can send as much cash or valuables as you like through the post. You can even send a clear see through packet with several grand in it if you so wish, no one is stopping you. Whether that is good practise or not is for you to decide.

"Are we to assume it WILL be stolen?" using your quote from your post and assuming a letter with a money note in it - no

pulliptears

Is Custardy ill? I've just read 27 posts on a Royal Mail thread and he's not posted!

mazza111

Royal Mail vet their staff very thoroughly. Unfortunately, there's always some who can't resist the temptation of the chance of a quick buck. Shame on them. They can't monitor staff constantly, to suggest they do is quite ridiculous.

When I worked there, there were 4 who were caught either dumping or stealing mail. Mainly dumping, but the one who stole it had been a postie for 20+ years so god knows how long he got away with it

It's sad when this happens, cos there are thousands of honest posties out there who are getting the rap for an errant few.

It's amazing how many hands a letter/card will pass through before it reaches the recipient, to say who it is that's on the take would be guesswork at best, unless there's been a history of mail going missing on a particular round.

custardy

ikendo30 wrote: »

Posties are more often than not, delivering on a regular route. I suggest going to your delivery office to inform the manager of your issue, the more complaints from a specific area can narrow down the problem incase its in your delivery office. Honest posties dont want tarred with the same brush as the thieves.

Royal mail have their own investigation team that will sit and monitor suspects and when ready can set a trap for their sticky fingers.

Your visit to the delivery office could help catch somebody.

and does a letter go direct from the Pillar box/Post Office to the delivering postie?
no,however as you have demonstrated. it is them who falls under suspension

custardy

pulliptears wrote: »

Is Custardy ill? I've just read 27 posts on a Royal Mail thread and he's not posted!

I'll just add you to ignore since if obviously bothers you