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POPLA Decisions

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  • Computersaysno
    Computersaysno Posts: 1,243 Forumite
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    Not really, the most common for ages was GPEOL [not a Genuine Pre-Estimate Of Loss], but that's now being rivalled by PSDSU [Parking Scum Didn't Show Up], probably because the PPC sees that you're going for GPEOL in your POPLA submission and so doesn't bother fighting it [resulting in a PSDSU win].
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,832 Forumite
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    In fact, there have been about 5 recent decisions on here with identical wording! (Now that I read them!)
    Are the cowboys on the run?
    VCS were busy working on their new 'calculations/manipulations' of the GPEOL argument:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4925895

    Post #24 onwards - you just missed out on the fun!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • cola109
    cola109 Posts: 37 Forumite
    Thank you to everyone who helped me, really appreciate it! Please see below letter from POPLA

    30 May 2014

    Reference xxxxxxxxxxxx

    RK (Appellant)
    -v-
    MET Parking Services Ltd (Operator)

    The Operator issued parking charge notice number xxxxxxxxxxxxx arising
    out of a presence on private land, of a vehicle with registration mark
    xxxxxxx.

    The Appellant appealed against liability for the parking charge.

    The Assessor has considered the evidence of both parties and has
    determined that the appeal be allowed.


    The Assessor’s reasons are as set out.

    The Operator should now cancel the parking charge notice forthwith.


    Reasons for the Assessor’s Determination

    It is the Appellant’s case that the parking charge notice was issued
    incorrectly.

    The Operator has not produced a copy of the parking charge notice, nor any
    evidence to show a breach of the conditions of parking occurred, nor any
    evidence that shows what the conditions of parking, in fact, were.

    Accordingly I have no option but to allow the appeal.


    Christopher Adamson
    Assessor:j:beer:
  • Coupon-mad wrote: »
    VCS were busy working on their new 'calculations/manipulations' of the GPEOL argument:



    Post #24 onwards - you just missed out on the fun!

    And only just missed out...the evidence pack from VCS arrived this morning...only 2 days late
    It includes the 'new' legal arguments and shed loads of stuff!!


    Will anonymise and post for reference
  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
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    Does it include an unredacted copy of the contract between them and the landowners?
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • prosnap wrote: »
    Does it include an unredacted copy of the contract between them and the landowners?

    Dropbox.com and then this /sh/vurkpa0dsjvgy9y/AAChxjTARXiZFG_AyTpkoqtSa
    (won't let me post link as a newbie)

    This is the evidence pack.

    Document G7 is a statement by JLA authorising VCS to manage parking, issue PCNs and pursue - all related to parking.
    As my PCN was for (allegedly) stopping on the access road, I'm not sure if that is covered?
    It also refers to a contract, but does not include a copy.

    There is also a press release (which is buried on the JLA website) warning drivers not to stop on approach roads.

    At first look, it is all quite intimidating, but once you read through the details, there are many statements which are just untrue. Good luck in taking it on. (Fortunately for me, VCS were 2 days late in submitting - what a shame!)
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    RE Ghostofjohnlennon's VCS evidence pack, I've started a separate discussion so as not to clutter this thread.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/65715635#Comment_65715635
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Document G7 is a statement by JLA authorising VCS to manage parking, issue PCNs and pursue - all related to parking.

    They can authorise it all they like. JLA is not "relevant land" as there are byelaws.
  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    This is the evidence pack.


    Thank you

    Just as most of us thought .... No sign of the contract!

    Might be fun to let Lucy know that her name was used in a losing court case. It should show her how useless her parking company is ... Allegedly
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • eire13
    eire13 Posts: 36 Forumite
    Thanks to everyone on this site for help with my POPLA appeal which has just been allowed.

    The alleged charge was for stopping in a no stopping zone at Luton Airport.

    The Appellant appealed against liability for the parking charge.


    The Assessor has considered the evidence of both parties and has
    determined that the appeal be allowed.


    The Assessor’s reasons are as set out.


    The Operator should now cancel the parking charge notice forthwith.
    Reasons for the Assessor’s Determination


    It is the Appellant’s case that the parking charge notice was issued
    incorrectly.

    The Operator has not produced a copy of the parking charge notice, nor any
    evidence to show a breach of the conditions of parking occurred, nor any
    evidence that shows what the conditions of parking, in fact, were.

    Accordingly I have no option but to allow the appeal.
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