Electricity bicycles

Jaffa_cake

jaybeetoo wrote: »

I think you'd be better off with a 125cc scooter from a decent manufacturer.

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Thanks,

But I am puzzled how you feel I would be better off with a 125cc scooter?

If I was wanting a motor bike, with tax, insurance, MOT, then I sure wouldn't be buying a 125cc scooter.

However, I do want an electricity bike which will cost me almost nothing to run,and no tax, no insurance, and no MOT.


J.C.

Jaffa_cake

Hello Norman,

Norman_Castle wrote: »

The bike you have pictured has a passenger seat. It is not a tandem. http://www.electric-bicycle-guide.com/electric-tandem.html

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How strange, Norman, I have took an extract from the first couple of lines of your link~~~~

"[FONT=&quot]If you love riding tandem (also known as two seater electric bikes), an electric tandem can be a great add-on to boost your experience.[/FONT]"

So you see, even your link implies that the 2 seater electric bike, is also know as a tandem.
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Norman_Castle wrote: »

No link - Why not?

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Because I don't want to put a direct link just now.

J.C.

jaybeetoo

Jaffa_cake wrote: »

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Thanks,

But I am puzzled how you feel I would be better off with a 125cc scooter?

If I was wanting a motor bike, with tax, insurance, MOT, then I sure wouldn't be buying a 125cc scooter.

However, I do want an electricity bike which will cost me almost nothing to run,and no tax, no insurance, and no MOT.


J.C.

If you were going for a standard electric bike then I would agree with you.

dandelionclock30

I go with jaybeetoo, either get a proper small motorbike or moped from a decent company or get a decent pushbike.
Honestly 7 miles on a pushbike is nothing and if its flat you wont have a problem. You can get a decent hybrid fro £300 new and that will last you ages.
With electric bikes, they are heavy, slow and expensive plus you will have problems selling it on as no one wants them because they have a bad reputation. They have many disadvantages and you can get a better performance from a pushbike.
Indeed if you got your fitness really up you can go quite fast on a bike.Also what are you going to do if it breaks down?.It will be too heavy to push with a puncture and you wont be able to replace a tire at the roadside yourself.It also wont be covered by the AA or the RAC.
So what would you do?

Jaffa_cake

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

I go with jaybeetoo, either get a proper small motorbike or moped from a decent company or get a decent pushbike.
Honestly 7 miles on a pushbike is nothing and if its flat you wont have a problem. You can get a decent hybrid fro £300 new and that will last you ages.
With electric bikes, they are heavy, slow and expensive plus you will have problems selling it on as no one wants them because they have a bad reputation. They have many disadvantages and you can get a better performance from a pushbike.
Indeed if you got your fitness really up you can go quite fast on a bike.Also what are you going to do if it breaks down?.It will be too heavy to push with a puncture and you wont be able to replace a tire at the roadside yourself.It also wont be covered by the AA or the RAC.
So what would you do?

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Hi,

From my post number 21.
I can have one with the limiter switch fitted, so it will only do 15mph.
The 48 volt one can do 25mph, the 60 volt can do 35mph, with both 20Ah batteries giving 40 miles range.

And your post

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

1/ With electric bikes, they are heavy, slow and expensive
2/ and you can get a better performance from a pushbike.
3/ Indeed if you got your fitness really up you can go quite fast on a bike
4/ It will be too heavy to push with a puncture

For all your points, they don't seem to add up.
1/ Slow can you pedal at 35 mph, for an hour?
2/ See point 1.
3/ See point 1.
4/ can easily be covered my a mini can of tube sealer, have you seen the mini cans, ? about 1 inch diameter, and 2 inches long?
Self sealing and inflating in seconds.

Good points raised, but there is always at the moment an alternative balance, and it does give me more of an idea about feasibility, and not meant to be argumentative.

J.C.

DCodd

Jaffa Cake, people aren't tryng to be argumentative they are just pointing out that the electric bike you seem to be describing may not be classified as an electric bike in this Country but will be classified as an electric motorbike. This would negate your desire for a cheap, insurance and MOT free mode of transport.

If you are not willing to post a link to the exact model that you are planning on buying, double and tripple check whether your chosen bike meets the necessary legislation. However, the fact that you seem to think that the bike is capable of 35mph suggests that at this speed it is powered by the motor thus making it an electric motorbike and not an electric bike.

liz545

Jaffa_cake wrote: »

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If I was wanting a motor bike, with tax, insurance, MOT, then I sure wouldn't be buying a 125cc scooter.

However, I do want an electricity bike which will cost me almost nothing to run,and no tax, no insurance, and no MOT.

I think you may still be liable for tax, insurance etc with a pedal scooter. Electric bikes are becoming a bit more common, but most of them look more like normal bikes than scooters - see here.

motch

With regards to a 200w motor or even a 250w motor, if that is used for a heavy electric bicycle/scooter with shoddy pedals it will hardly propel it along, with that on 100% and when you try and pedal you'll be lucky to match yourself on a lightweight racer. I'm talking same physical effort here too.

Can I ask if you're fairly healthy? I can see the need for lots of aid if health problems of some sort.

How about storage or getting the scooter in and out of where you live? if you have to lift it about or up and down stairs would be a nightmare.

Not trying to put you off electric by any means. I wish the laws would be changed with speed limits for electric bicycles, especially retro fits on a racer or Mountain bike for the roads, that would be ace!

Norman_Castle

How strange, Norman, I have took an extract from the first couple of lines of your link~~~~

"[FONT="]If you love riding tandem (also known as two seater electric bikes), an electric tandem can be a great add-on to boost your experience.[/FONT]"

So you see, even your link implies that the 2 seater electric bike, is also know as a tandem.

A tandem has two sets of pedals and handlebars and is designed primarily for two people. The bike you have shown is a single seater with a passenger seat. If you plan on buying this assuming you can ride it as you believe it is a tandem can I suggest you check properly first.

Cornucopia

It's quite simple - if it is capable of 35mph (perhaps in a particular mode setting) - then it is not legal to use it in that setting in the UK - unless it has approval, tax and insurance as an electric motorbike.

Although I'm intrigued as to whether a cleverly designed tandem or tricycle might improve the range and/or power, it's clear that the speed limit in the UK specification applies to any electric bike.