Electricity bicycles

custardy

thats no bike

System

That is an electric moped. Licence/tax/insurance/safety gear required as per an ICE moped. It will not meet EAPC regualations.

londonTiger

Jaffa_cake wrote: »

Thanks for many options.
I think I will go for a Chinese electricity bike.
I am just deciding to go for 48 volts or 60 volts.
I will not bother with the 10Ah battery, but go for the 20Ah one.
I can have one with the limiter switch fitted, so it will only do 15mph.
The 48 volt one can do 25mph, the 60 volt can do 35mph, with both 20Ah batteries giving 40 miles range.
They are non spoked alloy wheels, with the motor in the rear hub.
They have a rear "dicky" seat for up to 50kg passengers also.
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first time you go over a hump with you pasenger i think you'll both end up on your backs

ev70

I think I have found a supplier of this Electric Scooter or something similar (which is what it is) on a Chinese web site belonging to YongKang HengLi Electronics. I will assume the HL-EB04 which is a similar looking model as the OP did not give any specifications or model.

First if you say the battery is 60V, then I expect that this does not follow BS1727.

More important the scooter weighs in at 45kg net which means that it is too heavy to be classed under EPAC rules. This mean that is must be licensed as an electric motorbike. Tandems, those with two sets of pedals can go up to 60kg.

So as others say you will require VED, MOT, license, license plates, insurance, proper safety equipment, etc.. That is if you can get this passed to be ridden on the roads. It definitely would not be legal to ride this on cycle paths. If you do not do any of this expect this motor scooter to be impounded by the police at some point.

If you do manage to get this on the road, expect no help from bi-cycle shops as they do not deal is motor bikes and the vast majority of garages also would not help if you had a major technical problem.

Jaffa_cake

ev70 wrote: »

Tandems, those with two sets of pedals can go up to 60kg.

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Hi, are you sure about the term "tandem" and the specifications?
I beg to differ some what.

Taken from Wiki,

The tandem bicycle or twin is a form of bicycle (occasionally, a tricycle) designed to be ridden by more than one person. The term tandem refers to the seating arrangement (fore to aft, not side by side), not the number of riders. A bike with two riders side by side is called a sociable

I believe the term "tandem" refers to seats, and not to pedal arrangement.

As this is a tandem, the weight limit would be 60kg I believe.
Providing the speed then of 15mph, is complied with, I am some what failing to see the problem.
It simply means it will do maximum of 15 mph on the flat, and up a hill.
I would further expect the range of 40 miles, to be enhanced at a much reduced running speed.

Happy to be proved incorrect though.

J.C.

Jaffa_cake

londonTiger wrote: »

first time you go over a hump with you pasenger i think you'll both end up on your backs

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Hi,

How do you arrive at that strange statement?:rotfl:

16 inch balloon type tyres. They have front and rear suspension.

I guess just a small proportion of ordinary pedal cycles in UK have suspension front and rear.
I don't regularly see people falling off every time they run over a hump.

You can see the footrests, and the hand grips for the rear rider?
There are probably 1,000,000,000 of these in China, I don't read of many accidents, pro rota.

J.C.

Norman_Castle

From wikipedia
United Kingdom

In the United Kingdom, electric bicycles are classed as standard bicycles providing the motor's maximum continuous rated power output does not exceed 200 W for bicycles, 250W for bicycle tandems (i.e. two seaters) and 250W for tricycles,[20] and cuts out once the bike reaches 15.5 mph (24.9 km/h). It must also be under 40 kg (88 lb) for a bicycle, or 60kg for a tricycle.
Riders must be at least 14 years of age, but no driving licence is required.

Do you have a link to your proposed bike?

There are probably 1,000,000,000 of these in China, I don't read of many accidents, pro rota.

Do you read many Chinese newspapers?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703657604575005140241751852.html

I think the're great. They wll divert motorists anger away from cyclists, and as they are Chinese and electric, they will fail regularly providing exercise as you push it home.

Jaffa_cake

Hi Norman, thanks for some more pointers,

Norman_Castle wrote: »

From wikipedia
United Kingdom
In the United Kingdom, electric bicycles are classed as standard bicycles providing the motor's maximum continuous rated power output does not exceed 200 W for bicycles, 250W for bicycle tandems (i.e. two seaters) and 250W for tricycles,[20] and cuts out once the bike reaches 15.5 mph (24.9 km/h).

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This speed limit can be set the software with a simple "on-off" switch.
Switch it in the normal "UK" position, then no power to the motor after 15,5 mph
I will specify a 250W hub motor.

Norman_Castle wrote: »

It must also be under 40 kg (88 lb) for a bicycle, or 60kg for a tricycle.
Riders must be at least 14 years of age, but no driving licence is required.

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I think you will find it is 60kg for a tandem, or tricycle.

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Do you have a link to your proposed bike?
Do you read many Chinese newspapers?

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No link.
Read Chinese newspapers, no way, just recognise about 50 characters, writing my name in Chinese was hard enough :j

Norman_Castle wrote: »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703657604575005140241751852.html

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Sadly your link is around 3 and half years out of date.
I feel the current rapid advancement makes this link too much outdated to be of any significant interest.

Norman_Castle wrote: »

I think the're great. They wll divert motorists anger away from cyclists, and as they are Chinese and electric, they will fail regularly providing exercise as you push it home.

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Unfortunately UK is as per normal, dragging it's weary heels in so many respects to electric battery powered transport.
Sad to say that by the time UK does eventually smell the coffee, then it will all be over before any UK business have even started.

UK has to do more research and investment into electric transportation of various means.

J.B.

Norman_Castle

The bike you have pictured has a passenger seat. It is not a tandem. http://www.electric-bicycle-guide.com/electric-tandem.html

No link.

Why not?

jaybeetoo

I think you'd be better off with a 125cc scooter from a decent manufacturer.