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peter999

What if properties fail energy certification ??

Rewire the house !!
Chuck out 5 year old fridge & replace with latest "Green" model.
Boiler is not to current standard, replace with latest "energy efficient model".

Massive expense for little gain.

peter999

jyonda

As a tenant I'd allow a snooping green inspector in the house as it could very well save me money on my heating bills. I'm not exactly sure how you would force a landlord (one of the baddies, not like the philanthropists on here) to update an existing property in a timely manner or at all for that matter.

thesaint

jyonda wrote: »

As a tenant I'd allow a snooping green inspector in the house as it could very well save me money on my heating bills. I'm not exactly sure how you would force a landlord (one of the baddies, not like the philanthropists on here) to update an existing property in a timely manner or at all for that matter.

If a landlord is forced to make his property more energy efficient he would pay for it through the increased rent he would charge you for letting the government [strike]tax raiser[/strike] energy inspector in.

:money:

Guy_Montag

I think the idea is that the property gets an energy rating like white goods get. That way when you approach a LA/LL looking to rent their property they tell you the energy rating. Obviously if it's A rated then you might be prepared to pay a little more rent in the knowledge that it's going to have cheaper fuel bills & conversely those LL with flats with low energy ratings will either have to drop the rent to compensate for high fuel bills or will get the tenants who don't give a toss 'cause they have no intention of paying any bills (or rent). *snigger*

liz545

Haringey council are using thermal imaging to see which houses lose the most heat - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2007/05/04/easpy04.xml
It's pretty typical that rented properties have little insulation, rubbish glazing etc, which will lose heat - Rigsby's Law, maybe? If there are grants out there for cavity wall insulation etc, I think the incentive is there for LLs to improve the 'rating' of their property, but as it stands, the tenant is rightly limited in the alterations they can make to the property without express permission. Again, some kind of regulation of the market would help with this!

lynzpower

peter999 wrote: »

Energy certificates for slum properties !! :rotfl:
Inspectors snooping in rental properties.

Who would these idiot energy inspectors be ??

Trained up on a weeks' course giving them the right to snoop in properties & pass judgement.
Some twit spouting energy efficiency nonsense based on latest scientific propaganda & Green agenda.

I agree with sensible regulation but not snooping or intrusion.

peter999

not overly peter. Im an inventrory inspector, i amn employed to give a fair reflection on the state of the property, independent, on no ones side.

Give me the twits job any day of the week :beer: I would happily inspect leaking windows, rotten door frames, dodgy boilers and scary wiring.

It has to be done, if rthe government dont do it, who will? Landlords cant regulate themselves as we have seen plenty of times.

thesaint

Guy_Montag wrote: »

I think the idea is that the property gets an energy rating like white goods get. That way when you approach a LA/LL looking to rent their property they tell you the energy rating. Obviously if it's A rated then you might be prepared to pay a little more rent in the knowledge that it's going to have cheaper fuel bills & conversely those LL with flats with low energy ratings will either have to drop the rent to compensate for high fuel bills or will get the tenants who don't give a toss 'cause they have no intention of paying any bills (or rent). *snigger*

You may be right, but, when purchasing a house, I doubt whether the energy efficiency is going to sway a purchaser either way. I bought my house with the intention of living in it for 10 years and saving £10 per month wouldn't have persuaded me to buy the house down the road (if it were available at the same time).

Similarly a tenant about to rent is unlikely to be swayed to pay more rent for a property that he/she has no intention of staying in for longer than 2/3 years?

Why you'd snigger at someone not paying their bills or rent escapes me at the moment.

Guy_Montag

thesaint wrote: »

You may be right, but, when purchasing a house, I doubt whether the energy efficiency is going to sway a purchaser either way. I bought my house with the intention of living in it for 10 years and saving £10 per month wouldn't have persuaded me to buy the house down the road (if it were available at the same time).

Similarly a tenant about to rent is unlikely to be swayed to pay more rent for a property that he/she has no intention of staying in for longer than 2/3 years?

Why you'd snigger at someone not paying their bills or rent escapes me at the moment.

If you own a place you can change things to improve it, but if you rent you have no choice but to accept it the way it is. Thus the energy rating of the place I rent will have more impact on my choice than the energy rating of the place I buy.

So I would expect to rent somewhere with crappy glazing & no insulation for less than somewhere which is highly energy efficient to compensate for the higher fuel bills.

The snigger was intended towards bad landlords (& we know we have none of those here:rolleyes: ) who can't be bothered to improve their properties & therefore get the crappy tenants. Every little helps.

peter999

Energy inspection is open to massive interpretation based on the Green Agenda.

We've got enough problems between Landlords/Tenants providing basic housing regulation without "Energy Inspectors" stirring it up & interfering.

What, double glaze all rental properties ??
Replace all old boilers ??

In an ideal world yes, but I think it will create a lot of aggro.

peter999

thesaint

A little to simplistic.

I have a house that was built in 1884'ish it has wooden sash windows and no cavitys in the walls to insulate, what the tax raiser at £200? a pop would advise me to do is beyond me. It would raise a lot of money with no benefit to landlords or tenants.