Fact Sheet from Carer's UK on Bedroom Tax

mysterywoman10

Please find below the link to Carers UK factsheet on the Bedroom Tax

http://no2bedroomtax.co.uk/bedroom-tax-fact-sheet-carersuk/

Which I hope will answer some queries for people until we have more information.

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Thank you for that

This new law is impractical for my family as my daughter can have a spare room at her property for me ( which she hasn't and is fine ) as I am my Autistic Grandsons carer , the problem being to give my daughter some real respite I have him stay over at MY property

I am keeping my second bedroom for him and will have to pay the tax in 3 weeks even though I can't afford it , but I cannot sacrifice his special and peaceful place for him to settle to sleep in

I find the fact that the goverment is 'appealling' the Burnip case just adds to my conclusion that they indeed have no heart whatsoever!

This is going to cause CHAOS and stress for many families who are already having a difficult time

I feel for and cannot believe that the government do not agree to a disabled child not sharing with a sibling as it must be so disruptive to a family to do so

These are the most uncaring times I have ever lived in & have been around a while being a 'Nanny' now! x

iluvmarmite

On his live 2010 tv campaign Cameron promised to help the sick, disabled, vunerable and poorest in society because that's what a caring government does, this is why I have never voted, they lie and make all sorts of promises to gain votes, once in office they break all promises made.

I will now be voting in the next election to try and help get this cruel government out.

luminated

iluvmarmite wrote: »

On his live 2010 tv campaign Cameron promised to help the sick, disabled, vunerable and poorest in society because that's what a caring government does, this is why I have never voted, they lie and make all sorts of promises to gain votes, once in office they break all promises made.

I will now be voting in the next election to try and help get this cruel government out.

Like you on this I absolutely despair but who on earth would you vote for - Monster Raving Loony Party (Only joking with last bit). But who?

pipkin71

cazzap06 wrote: »

Thank you for that

This new law is impractical for my family as my daughter can have a spare room at her property for me ( which she hasn't and is fine ) as I am my Autistic Grandsons carer , the problem being to give my daughter some real respite I have him stay over at MY property

I am keeping my second bedroom for him and will have to pay the tax in 3 weeks even though I can't afford it , but I cannot sacrifice his special and peaceful place for him to settle to sleep in

I find the fact that the goverment is 'appealling' the Burnip case just adds to my conclusion that they indeed have no heart whatsoever!

This is going to cause CHAOS and stress for many families who are already having a difficult time

I feel for and cannot believe that the government do not agree to a disabled child not sharing with a sibling as it must be so disruptive to a family to do so

These are the most uncaring times I have ever lived in & have been around a while being a 'Nanny' now! x

As the room is for your grandson, can your daughter help pay towards the costs due to it also giving her respite?

Does your daughter claim for respite care from social services?

As you are your grandson's carer, would the carer's allowance help go some way to covering the cost at all?

mysterywoman10

cazzop06 your grandson is very lucky to have such a lovely Nanny

The reason the DWP are appealing is because if they don't then they will have to make amendments to their Welfare Reform Bill. Although these amendments were requested by numerous charities and organisations before they rollercoastered it through parliament and were ignored and were not debated by parliament. Also the timing is important because the Welfare Reform Bill received royal assent before our case's judgement was handed down.

Although obviously they knew it was pending.

In addition it is the only case that has succeeded in using a particular principle in Human Right's law against secondary legislation by a UK Government.

The Court of Appeal turned down their application to appeal but because of it's importance they were granted the right to appeal by the Supreme Court.

luminated

For the first time on my life, just after reaching my pension age, I was forced to claim HB/CTB and was shocked because I have been so naïve on such matters.

We have lived in a rented two bedroom home for several years and assumed we could claim for a two bedroom rate then the man at the council (to be fair he was extremely nice) said we could only get the one bedroom rate.

Without going into my wife and my health issues we often have to sleep in separate rooms mainly because of me (HRM & MRC) as my nights are very very broken with a whole variety of reasons. The council man was very sympathetic but said it was still the one bedroom arte.

I thought I heard Eric Pickles for the gov saying there was a pot of money to address individual cases but not sure if he was embellishing the truth - as usual?

pipkin71

luminated wrote: »

For the first time on my life, just after reaching my pension age, I was forced to claim HB/CTB and was shocked because I have been so naïve on such matters.

We have lived in a rented two bedroom home for several years and assumed we could claim for a two bedroom rate then the man at the council (to be fair he was extremely nice) said we could only get the one bedroom rate.

Without going into my wife and my health issues we often have to sleep in separate rooms mainly because of me (HRM & MRC) as my nights are very very broken with a whole variety of reasons. The council man was very sympathetic but said it was still the one bedroom arte.

I thought I heard Eric Pickles for the gov saying there was a pot of money to address individual cases but not sure if he was embellishing the truth - as usual?

There are discretionary payments so maybe it's worth applying for those? I know it's not a long term solution but could help out short-term

mazza111

luminated wrote: »

For the first time on my life, just after reaching my pension age, I was forced to claim HB/CTB and was shocked because I have been so naïve on such matters.

We have lived in a rented two bedroom home for several years and assumed we could claim for a two bedroom rate then the man at the council (to be fair he was extremely nice) said we could only get the one bedroom rate.

Without going into my wife and my health issues we often have to sleep in separate rooms mainly because of me (HRM & MRC) as my nights are very very broken with a whole variety of reasons. The council man was very sympathetic but said it was still the one bedroom arte.

I thought I heard Eric Pickles for the gov saying there was a pot of money to address individual cases but not sure if he was embellishing the truth - as usual?

There is the discretionary housing payment they've laid aside for the first year hon. It's mainly for people who need their other room or are in adapted properties. It is as the name on the tin says, discretionary. The daft bit is, if you got someone in overnight to care for you, then you wouldn't have it to pay. Daft innit

mysterywoman10

lumnated it's cases like your that hang on our case. The directive on the Gorry's element of the case in LHA at the moment they are paying families with two severely disabled children the difference in rate.

DHP is not the answer long term and it is also a very invasive process to go through. The LA's will probably give consideration to your case because it is potentially affected by this case. As it's all in limbo.

For other families though particularly those without a disability it is going to be very hard to get DHP. They have put £30m in which sounds a lot but put it this way our LA's was £30,000 a year now it is £90,000 that's 1000's.

It will be a mad scrabble to get it and I can't see the LA's having the resources to deal with all the applications either.

luminated

I just wish I still had what I have definitely lost with my deteriorating health - an alert brain. If it was still in gear & working well'ish providing I felt OK'ish, which I rarely do, I would be trying to do something more than I can to help 'the' cause.

Even the stress of claiming DLA (from year gone January) is exhausting. So the government can attack the weak 'uns who can't put up much of a fight.

Not bloody fair and I am so grateful for anyone who can help on behalf of the 'weak uns' :T

I will think about the discretionary payment but I am just into a 13 week period where they are basing my HB/CTB on my full rent not LHA.