Non fault accident help!

Chopper_Read

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Have you got a link for that or is it your own opinion?

It's a fact.

Chopper_Read

DUTR wrote: »

You made the statement, you prove it, it seems it was a wild irrational suggestion by yourself, it was asked earlier in the thread if there are to be charges against the other driver? It seems not, only the insurance arbitrators will have the final say, the OP is at a loss, irrespective of what people may say that he likes to hear/read.
Had he been hazard aware and driving without impunity, the accident would never have occured, whether the driver ahead changed their mind or not, he would have been at a safe distance to make an evasive manouvre, crossing the other carraigeway, verge and fottway before colliding with a wall suggests he was also driving at a speed too great for the scene ahead.

Other than your opinion, which by the way is wrong. You haven't provided a single thing to prove my 'claim' is wrong.

powerful_Rogue

Chopper_Read wrote: »

Owing to the presence of the other car which is a mechanically propelled vehicle in a public place. The op swerved to miss it and collided with a wall.

That's why it's involved.

Thats not what the definition states though.

powerful_Rogue

Chopper_Read wrote: »

It's a fact.

Nope, the definition dosnt say "Owing to the position of the other vehicle on the road" -You cant alter definitions to fit the situation!

powerful_Rogue

and also
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Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should

• not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake
• move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room.

DUTR

Chopper_Read wrote: »

Other than your opinion, which by the way is wrong. You haven't provided a single thing to prove my 'claim' is wrong.

Try the highway code section 126

126

Stopping Distances. Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear. You should

• leave enough space between you and the vehicle in front so that you can pull up safely if it suddenly slows down or stops. The safe rule is never to get closer than the overall stopping distance (see Typical Stopping Distances diagram, shown below)
• allow at least a two-second gap between you and the vehicle in front on roads carrying faster-moving traffic and in tunnels where visibility is reduced. The gap should be at least doubled on wet roads and increased still further on icy roads
• remember, large vehicles and motorcycles need a greater distance to stop. If driving a large vehicle in a tunnel, you should allow a four-second gap between you and the vehicle in front.

If you have to stop in a tunnel, leave at least a 5-metre gap between you and the vehicle in front.

maninthestreet

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Nope, the definition dosnt say "Owing to the position of the other vehicle on the road" -You cant alter definitions to fit the situation!

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

DUTR

maninthestreet wrote: »

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

However it is the OP that is in violation , as his presence to the offside of the vehicle is incorrect.

Chopper_Read

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Nope, the definition dosnt say "Owing to the position of the other vehicle on the road" -You cant alter definitions to fit the situation!

This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] on a road [F2or other public place], an accident occurs ”

Does it?

maninthestreet

DUTR wrote: »

However it is the OP that is in violation , as his presence to the offside of the vehicle is incorrect.

The section of the RTA I linked to does not seek to establish blame/fault for any collision, but it does determine which parties are deemed to be 'involved', and must comply with the the requirements of that section. The OP collided with a wall as they had to swerve to avoid the change in direction of the other vehicle, so the other vehicle is involved.