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Northern Ireland Residential Property Price Index

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  • tara747
    tara747 Posts: 10,238 Forumite
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    So, seems that house prices fell by 1% in Q1 2016. I have to say, even I'm surprised by that, given the rush to get BTL purchases completed before the stamp duty deadline on 31 March.


    Wonder what Q2 will bring, given that a friend's EA husband says that the market 'has slowed right down' since 1 April?


    http://www.nisra.gov.uk/housepriceindex/NI_RPPI_Q12016statisticalpressnotice.pdf
    http://www.nisra.gov.uk/housepriceindex/HPI.html
    Get to 119lbs! 1/2/09: 135.6lbs 1/5/11: 145.8lbs 30/3/13 150lbs 22/2/14 137lbs 2/6/14 128lbs 29/8/14 124lbs 2/6/17 126lbs
    Save £180,000 by 31 Dec 2020! 2011: £54,342 * 2012: £62,200 * 2013: £74,127 * 2014: £84,839 * 2015: £95,207 * 2016: £109,122 * 2017: £121,733 * 2018: £136,565 * 2019: £161,957 * 2020: £197,685
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  • qwert_yuiop
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    motorguy wrote: »
    No, hence why, presumably, its still for sale.

    The phrase "money pit" springs to mind.

    Would cost a fortune to bring it back to what it should be.

    I see it's now "sale agreed". Must ask around and see what the story is.
    “What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare
  • motorguy
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    I see it's now "sale agreed". Must ask around and see what the story is.

    Yes, it would be interesting to hear.

    Somebody is brave!

    I see the bungalow across the road from it is for sale? It was originally on land sold by the own for development and he built a (pretty much) identical bungalow beside it.

    Presumably the notion of a development there has fallen through and the developer / bank is selling the property to recoup some money?
  • qwert_yuiop
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    motorguy wrote: »
    Yes, it would be interesting to hear.

    Somebody is brave!

    I see the bungalow across the road from it is for sale? It was originally on land sold by the own for development and he built a (pretty much) identical bungalow beside it.

    Presumably the notion of a development there has fallen through and the developer / bank is selling the property to recoup some money?

    Something has gone wrong there. He used to have a garden that looked like something from a magazine. Now it's gone to rack and ruin.
    The big house sold fairly quickly, which might suggest someone keen to reconstruct came up with the money?
    “What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare
  • motorguy
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    Something has gone wrong there. He used to have a garden that looked like something from a magazine. Now it's gone to rack and ruin.
    The big house sold fairly quickly, which might suggest someone keen to reconstruct came up with the money?

    The bungalow? He sold out for it and the land around it to be redeveloped. It was to be demolished but never was.

    Beautiful bungalow in its time.
  • marathonic
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    edited 16 August 2016 at 11:58AM
    Here is the report for Q2 2016

    http://www.nisra.gov.uk/housepriceindex/NI_RPPI_Statistical_Report_Q2_2016.pdf

    Prices are now up 26.5% from the date that I originally started this thread.
  • motorguy
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    marathonic wrote: »
    Here is the report for Q2 2016

    http://www.nisra.gov.uk/housepriceindex/NI_RPPI_Statistical_Report_Q2_2016.pdf

    Prices are now up 26.5% from the date that I originally started this thread.

    And still as cheap as chips compared to the mainland. :eek:
  • tara747
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    Surprised by the Q2 figures, tbh. Especially since the supply of property for sale is increasing at an alarming rate.


    I made a note of the number of properties for sale on Propertynews on 18 April:

    NI 11,990
    Belfast 1,918


    Then I checked it again this morning:

    NI 13,146
    Belfast 2,383


    That's an increase of 1,156 (~10%) across NI, and a whopping 465 (~25%) for Belfast. :eek:


    So, lots of houses sitting on the market and not shifting in the last four months.


    Could be interesting times ahead...
    Get to 119lbs! 1/2/09: 135.6lbs 1/5/11: 145.8lbs 30/3/13 150lbs 22/2/14 137lbs 2/6/14 128lbs 29/8/14 124lbs 2/6/17 126lbs
    Save £180,000 by 31 Dec 2020! 2011: £54,342 * 2012: £62,200 * 2013: £74,127 * 2014: £84,839 * 2015: £95,207 * 2016: £109,122 * 2017: £121,733 * 2018: £136,565 * 2019: £161,957 * 2020: £197,685
    eBay sales - £4,559.89 Cashback - £2,309.73
  • marathonic
    marathonic Posts: 1,786 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2016 at 11:29AM
    These are the figures from PropertyPal:

    Properties for Sale
    19,174 Feb 2014
    14,304 Feb 2016
    16,081 Aug 2016

    There are certain times of the year that you'd traditionally expect a higher number of houses on the market.

    Also, whilst there has been a noticeable increase over the past 6 months, it's possible that this is down to people holding off to see how Brexit pans out - or, indeed, that there are usually more properties on the market in August when compared to February anyway. It's likely a combination of both.

    In addition to the above, I suspect that rising prices bring more sellers out of the woodwork who have second properties, or indeed their own homes, that are coming out of negative equity.

    The next two reports, in addition to changes in volumes of properties for sale between now and February, will be pretty interesting. However, I wouldn't read too much into volumes on the resale market today.
  • tara747
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    marathonic wrote: »
    These are the figures from PropertyPal:

    Properties for Sale
    19,174 Feb 2014
    14,304 Feb 2016
    16,081 Aug 2016

    There are certain times of the year that you'd traditionally expect a higher number of houses on the market.

    Also, whilst there has been a noticeable increase over the past 6 months, it's possible that this is down to people holding off to see how Brexit pans out - or, indeed, that there are usually more properties on the market in August when compared to February anyway. It's likely a combination of both.

    In addition to the above, I suspect that rising prices bring more sellers out of the woodwork who have second properties, or indeed their own homes, that are coming out of negative equity.

    The next two reports, in addition to changes in volumes of properties for sale between now and February, will be pretty interesting. However, I wouldn't read too much into volumes on the resale market today.



    Are the Propertypal figures just for NI? Otherwise, seems to be a huge discrepancy between PP and PN. 16,081 v 13,146.


    Anyway, looks like the supply has been decreasing (which usually corresponds to price rises), but in spring 2016 it began to increase again (which can be a leading indicator of price falls).


    It will be interesting to see what happens to the supply figure in the autumn - IIRC, September is supposed to be one of the busiest months for house buying and selling.
    Get to 119lbs! 1/2/09: 135.6lbs 1/5/11: 145.8lbs 30/3/13 150lbs 22/2/14 137lbs 2/6/14 128lbs 29/8/14 124lbs 2/6/17 126lbs
    Save £180,000 by 31 Dec 2020! 2011: £54,342 * 2012: £62,200 * 2013: £74,127 * 2014: £84,839 * 2015: £95,207 * 2016: £109,122 * 2017: £121,733 * 2018: £136,565 * 2019: £161,957 * 2020: £197,685
    eBay sales - £4,559.89 Cashback - £2,309.73
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