Is it easier for migrants to find jobs?

ohreally

falko89 wrote: »

It's also why equality rights were brought in to Northern Ireland, it stopped employers favoring one section of the community.

Are you implying this may be the issue in your case? Does the employer see you as kicking with the wrong foot?

Takeaway_Addict

falko89 wrote: »

It's also why equality rights were brought in to Northern Ireland, it stopped employers favoring one section of the community.

Now you just sound like you're whinging...

You have no proof that they are being chosen because of their nationality. Its no different to how your friend got his job at the new place by knowing someone who worked for the company

dacouch

My friend avoids employing young UK nationals as he feels they don't have the correct work ethic. He got fed up with the sickies, turning up late / in a state after a big night out and being lazy.

He tries wherever possible to employ Polish and Lithuaniums as they work hard, turn up on time and have a good work ethic

Bigmoney2

falko89 wrote: »

This is just my observation but I am wondering if anyone else has similar finding?

About 30% of our work force is made up of eastern Europeans, I started almost a year ago and none of the migrants that were there when I started are there now while all the natives are still stuck.

I asked one who was leaving the other day about where he was going, he told me, I'd sent in a speculative CV a few weeks earlier to this company and heard nothing, I asked how he got the job, he said his friend got him in, the guy had no sooner handed in his notice to the boss came down with a new start form and gave it to another migrant worker obviously to pass it on and the next day another new migrant recruit, seems to be a never ending supply.

I've posted about my efforts to get out in the past, but I was surprised to hear that everyone else seems to be doing the same yet as I say the only folk moving anywhere are the migrants.

So now you know someone who works there ask him to let you know if/when they need someone else and to put a word in for you. Its called networking.

Dunroamin

Maybe the Eastern Europeans don't spend all their leisure time on the internet complaining about how much they hate their jobs?

Person_one

dacouch wrote: »

My friend avoids employing young UK nationals as he feels they don't have the correct work ethic. He got fed up with the sickies, turning up late / in a state after a big night out and being lazy.

He tries wherever possible to employ Polish and Lithuaniums as they work hard, turn up on time and have a good work ethic

Nothing like a good stereotype on a Tuesday evening.

bugslet

Last two employees I've taken on have been on recommendation from another employee - so yes, networking works! Both English BTW. It saves any costs associated with advertising and interviewing and if an employee recommends someone, they don't want to recommend a numpty, so we have found it works well all round.

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Employers just want cheap, compliant, easily disposable labour so they use migrants. Thats the bottom line.

Er, I think you need to add the word some. Some of us are looking to establish a long term relationship with our employees because it's far better for us to have people that know the job, know how we work and can establish a relationship with our customers. The two that have left reently have done so due to retirement after 21 years and 25 years.

terra_ferma

In my experience many migrant workers are very focused, they come to this country to better themselves, they don't have many friends and the are not here to have fun, get drunk etc. They want to make a good living, save money (they probably send a good portion of their salary home) and at some point go back to their country.
They have more focus and energy to be good workers, because it's a higher priority for them than most people (irrespective of nationality), as they were prepared to live their country, friends and family to come here to work, they would not want to jeopardise this by being lazy and slack at work.

basically it's hard to compete with them when works is not such a high priority to you (as to most people everywhere in the world, it's not a nationality thing, I'm sure they have plenty of lazy people in Poland too, but they probably stay there lol)

dandelionclock30

terra_ferma wrote: »

In my experience many migrant workers are very focused, they come to this country to better themselves, they don't have many friends and the are not here to have fun, get drunk etc. They want to make a good living, save money (they probably send a good portion of their salary home) and at some point go back to their country.
They have more focus and energy to be good workers, because it's a higher priority for them than most people (irrespective of nationality), as they were prepared to live their country, friends and family to come here to work, they would not want to jeopardise this by being lazy and slack at work.

basically it's hard to compete with them when works is not such a high priority to you (as to most people everywhere in the world, it's not a nationality thing, I'm sure they have plenty of lazy people in Poland too, but they probably stay there lol)

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In a certain part of my city theres been a major police initiative to deal with the drunken and anti social behaviour of some Eastern European migrants.They have had to up the police presence etc and do an infomation campaign about how to behave etc and not be drunk and anti social on the streets. Its even been in the evening paper about it.

Obviously its not all migrants it will be a small proportion.But there is an issue as its being dealt with.

paddedjohn

If you can't beat them join them, in the 80's/90's thousands upon thousands of Brits headed to Germany, Spain and France for work, this fact is quietly forgotten about when people want to have a go at others coming here to work. Every week there were tranny vans overloaded with lads leaving to find work on building site in Germany or Disneyland Paris, this generation is too lazy/pampered to try anything like that now.