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Stronger Rights For Tenants, Please vote
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Edited for exact details from the HSE website
The LL can (and do) take risks with the health/lives of their tenants. How much money is my life or that of my children worth to you? I've had LLs put my life in danger to improve their margin. I'd be interested to know what pound note value you put on a 2 year old's life. Or that of my 8 month old. Or mine for that matter!Katie Overton died on the night of 29 March 2003 at a rented house in Oxford Road, Southsea, Hampshire. At the time of her death, Katie's parents were renting the property from Mr Clark. The CO fumes came from a gas boiler which was found to be in a poor condition and had not been serviced since 1996. Although the boiler was subject to a number of gas safety checks, none of these had been carried out within the required 12-month intervals.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2006/e06054.htm
Sorry missed out the "punishment"Clark was fined £20,000 for the failure to maintain the boiler and a total of £22,000 for failure to have gas safety checks carried out within the required period of time. He was also ordered to pay £18,000 prosecution costs.
So Mr Shogun it seems you are wrong, a landlord can kill his tenants & walk away with just a financial penalty. I think you should apologise to Mr Generali."Mrs. Pench, you've won the car contest, would you like a triumph spitfire or 3000 in cash?" He smiled.
Mrs. Pench took the money. "What will you do with it all? Not that it's any of my business," he giggled.
"I think I'll become an alcoholic," said Betty.0 -
The exception PROVES the rule. Therefore, most LL's do what is right and fair.FREEDOM IS NOT FREE0
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Why do LL's feel sorry for themselves when they've never had it so good? Why do they think they can make things up as they go along? Why don't they LISTEN to their tenants? Even the fair minded and noblest of LL's on these boards seem totally ignorant of the fact that the tenant is the customer and a business should give it's customers what they want.
If people want longer term contracts/greater security then the market should respond accordingly.
The difference here is that this market is something people genuinely NEED and can't easily choose to move so the market takes advantage and the power is in the wrong hands.
The rental market responding to customers wishes is capitalism not communism.0 -
Why do SOME LL's feel sorry for themselves when they've never had it so good? Why do SOME think they can make things up as they go along? Why don't they LISTEN to their tenants? Even the fair minded and noblest of LL's on these boards seem totally ignorant of the fact that the tenant is the customer and a business should give it's customers what they want.
If people want longer term contracts/greater security then the market should respond accordingly.
IT DOES
The difference here is that this market is something people genuinely NEED and can't easily choose to move so the market takes advantage and the power is in the wrong hands. NONSENSE !
The rental market responding to customers wishes is capitalism not communismQUOTE]
communism = envyism
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Why don't they LISTEN to their tenants? Even the fair minded and noblest of LL's on these boards seem totally ignorant of the fact that the tenant is the customer and a business should give it's customers what they want.
If people want longer term contracts/greater security then the market should respond accordingly.
We do listen to our tenants and yes they are our customers until they do not pay their rent.
Like you say it is a business, that is why I demand to be paid on time every month, you use the service pay for it without LL's having to chase and listen to the drivel and lies that you always spout.
Why give longer term contracts when you don't or won't keep to the terms you agree to.
Like I have said before there are good and bad on both sides but I would say from my expierence that if lying was a sport you tenant's would win hands down.0 -
Why do LL's feel sorry for themselves when they've never had it so good? Why do they think they can make things up as they go along? Why don't they LISTEN to their tenants? Even the fair minded and noblest of LL's on these boards seem totally ignorant of the fact that the tenant is the customer and a business should give it's customers what they want.
If people want longer term contracts/greater security then the market should respond accordingly.
The difference here is that this market is something people genuinely NEED and can't easily choose to move so the market takes advantage and the power is in the wrong hands.
The rental market responding to customers wishes is capitalism not communism.
Not everyone is out to make a huge proft when they rent out property and Landlords sometimes have personal difficulties too.
Due to some massive changes to my personal life I had to buy a second property in November 2004 and move quickly. I have rented my other property out since then having gone into debt to put the deposit down on my new home. The rent has barely covered my outgoings and I have carried out all the repairs and had all the required certificates each year.
I have had the stress of tenants moving out and the property being empty for months - when I have had to pay 2 mortgages and I've had to clean up the disgusting mess they've left behind - I don't think they'd cleaned the toilet in the year they'd rented!
Now I am selling the property and I have served my current tenants notice to quit. I'm now on tenterhooks in case they refuse to leave, which apparently they can do............how is that fair? Increasing tenants rights could make it even more difficult for people like me to legitimately claim back their own property and sell it. Should I be required by law, to rent out for the rest of my life because I chose to do so for a couple of years, no matter what my financial circumstances are?
There are good and bad tenants like there are good and bad landlords. I honestly believe the rights of landlords and tenants currently are about right. Can I say that no matter how rich I am, I will never rent property out again - it's far too much hassle but it was the only way I could manage a very difficult time in my life.0 -
All the landlords here seem to be perfect landlords, in their own dream world !!
Would your tenants agree ??
No doubt some of you will say, you don't really care whether the tenants agree with you.
peter9990 -
True.
However, under current laws LLs aren't held to account, generally speaking. Perhaps it would be possible that both sides could take risk (e.g. LL and tenant both having to put a deposit in - the tenant could use the LL's deposit to repair the cooker/boiler/whatever if the LL refuses to do so in good time, LL could get a charge against the tenant's wages if appropriate). Deposit being held by a neuteral 3rd party.
You really don't live in the real world do you.
Tenant's will not bother paying the last month's rent before they leave because they know that the !!!!!! condition they leave the property in and all the nice new beds etc that have been left for their use, will never have been cleaned, the toilet will have things growing in it, the oven will be full of dried grease and fat.
Tenant's in jobs so that you could get a charge against them, right ho, dream world again.That's why they are in rented because they are to lazy to get of their @rse and earn some money and join into the property ladder for themselves.0 -
All the landlords here seem to be perfect landlords, in their own dream world !!
Would your tenants agree ??
No doubt some of you will say, you don't really care whether the tenants agree with you.
peter999
I think my tenants would agree and the Letting Agency are certainly very happy with me as a Landlord..............the only thing I wouldn't allow was them to have a dog or a cat!0 -
Would your tenants agree ??
No doubt some of you will say, you don't really care whether the tenants agree with you.
peter999
If my tenant's do not like the way my properties are when they first inspect why do they pay over the going market rent for them?
It is not because there are no alternatives because we are swamped with places to rent.
Perhaps it is due to the fact that they are decorated top to bottom and have all new white goods in.0
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