We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Burning smokeless fuel in a stove

Options
12357

Comments

  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    We top it up twice in 24 hours, at 10am and 10pm. Our stove is on 24/7 for most of the year. :)
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hi all, some advice pls. Im getting a multifuel stove next month - Dunsley Highlander 5 solo enviro-burn 5kw. All new flue liner etc, however im unsure which smokeless fuel to use ( smoke controlled area ). Id like the fuel to slumber/burn 24/7 once lit during the winter months. Ive been told about Pureheat and phurnacite is the best option? Also Realheat ...... Is it trial and error or has anyone any sound advice to point me the right way. Thanks again all

    Experiment. Every stove and installation is different and there is quite a variation in prices on offer. Personally, I've found Phurnacite no better than several cheaper alternatives (Maxibrite, to name one) and a couple of pounds a bag soon mounts up over a year!

    Currently, I'm using Newflame, which has been the best combination of price and performance that I've found but, as I say, your stove won't be the same as mine.

    Any of the major brands will be fine to burn but don't mess around with petro coke or whatever it's called: it's not designed for multifuel stoves and will melt the firebars.

    Try to find an independent coal merchant and see what he stocks.
  • alleycat`
    alleycat` Posts: 1,901 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Concur, i've not found phurnacite to be any better than the cheaper stuff i've used.

    In fact our stove worked best on the cheapest smokeless that CPL do.

    Taybrite was the worst, for reasons i don't really understand.
  • I buy petcoke, at £6.90 a bag, it doesn't melt the bars any quicker than normal coal, and one bag can be drawn out to last 2 days running a central heating system and water, and fire itself obviously.


    In fact it's the best economy and burns better than esse, or any grade/type of phurnacite I know whilst also being cheaper and hotter. It's only drawback is the flame pattern is non-existent.
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Is it not far cheaper to get an actual coalman to deliver sacks to you? I would never buy coal from a garage.
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    mardatha wrote: »
    Is it not far cheaper to get an actual coalman to deliver sacks to you? I would never buy coal from a garage.

    You'd think so, wouldn't you? But in my case this year I was able to buy one metric tonne cheaper from a garage (which delivered it free) than I was quoted by the company that actually supplies the garage! The joke is, they were using open 50k sacks, too, while the garage's supply was in 25kg plastic sacks - usually the more expensive option.

    It certainly pays to shop around!
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I buy petcoke, at £6.90 a bag, it doesn't melt the bars any quicker than normal coal, and one bag can be drawn out to last 2 days running a central heating system and water, and fire itself obviously.


    In fact it's the best economy and burns better than esse, or any grade/type of phurnacite I know whilst also being cheaper and hotter. It's only drawback is the flame pattern is non-existent.

    Anyone considering taking the above advice about petroleum coke is advised to read the history of this poster's previous comments on this forum.

    The following quote took a few seconds to find via Google. It's an exclusion clause from the Dimplex 10 year warranty on its stoves. Other stove makes have similar cautions:

    "Damage or defects caused by the following are excluded: over-firing, use of inappropriate fuels such as petroleum coke or household rubbish, flue draft problems, ventilation issues, accident, misuse, fair wear and tear, unauthorised modifications or repairs made using incorrect spares."
  • Blah blah blah.....




    I thought dimplex made the electric stoves anyway? Never even heard of them doing solid fuel.


    No one has explained to me why petcoke will burn out the firebars faster than any other coal type? Is it heat or the content of the fuel? Nobody appears to actually know.


    I currently burning a 30 year old parkray which is partially warped, overfires, has poor control via warping of ash pit door, but which consumes less - YES LESS - fuel, at cheaper cost, to run a CH system, than others on here are paying just to run an open fire or a stove.
  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    A._Badger wrote: »
    You'd think so, wouldn't you? But in my case this year I was able to buy one metric tonne cheaper from a garage (which delivered it free) than I was quoted by the company that actually supplies the garage! The joke is, they were using open 50k sacks, too, while the garage's supply was in 25kg plastic sacks - usually the more expensive option.

    It certainly pays to shop around!

    I can buy cheaper in the 25kg bags as well from the cash and carry

    However I stick to my independent coal man for delivery because he always gets to me no matter how bad the roads are ( 10 foot snow drifts last year and only a day late) and there's no way I can be loading and unloading the car

    So the £1 a sack difference is worth it to me
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Same here suki, one thing about coalmen is that they always make it through to their customers :) Our stove is on constant and we use 2 bags a week.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.9K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.