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Burning smokeless fuel in a stove

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  • regarding the ash from your stoves and what to do with it.
    We have a "Tippy" which we put the hot ash into, allow it to go cold and then put it into black bin bags and then into the wheelie bin. No problems with setting the bin on fire or melting bin bags!
    Our stove fitter suggested we get one when we installed the stove. So glad we did. You can get these Tippy's off the internet, just google tippy ash carriers.
  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
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    Why waste money when either an old tin bucket out he back door will work or have enough land to scatter the ashes


    Wood ash is fine for the garden
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
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    redrose59 wrote: »
    regarding the ash from your stoves and what to do with it.
    We have a "Tippy" which we put the hot ash into, allow it to go cold and then put it into black bin bags and then into the wheelie bin. No problems with setting the bin on fire or melting bin bags!
    Our stove fitter suggested we get one when we installed the stove. So glad we did. You can get these Tippy's off the internet, just google tippy ash carriers.

    I have two Tippy ash cans - excellent but expensive.

    The point of them isn't just to carry ash - they enable you to put the entire ash tray inside the carrier to empty it - which means no spilled red hot ash or embers on the floor when you are emptying a still burning stove. Very well made (in England, too!) with helpful staff.
  • SEE
    SEE Posts: 722 Forumite
    redrose59 wrote: »
    regarding the ash from your stoves and what to do with it.
    We have a "Tippy" which we put the hot ash into, allow it to go cold and then put it into black bin bags and then into the wheelie bin. No problems with setting the bin on fire or melting bin bags!
    Our stove fitter suggested we get one when we installed the stove. So glad we did. You can get these Tippy's off the internet, just google tippy ash carriers.
    I use a big metal dustbin with lid like this one http://www.crocus.co.uk/product/_/galvanised-dustbin-with-metal-lid/classid.2000008788/

    I keep it outdoors and empty ash as needed into a black bag for the bin men. They don't like taking it away though and sometimes they rip my bags open and photograph the contents. May be the bin men have a website where they have a laugh and moan about peoples rubbish?
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  • re the binmen examining your bags of ash. This waste is a proper domestic waste product which they must remove. You should complain to the local authority about this action at once.
    In some areas, where there were mines and are still ex-miners , the wheelie bins are 25% full of coal ash. I had this information from the Director of Environment who is responsible for waste in a nearby area.
    Re fuel. Well, Supertherm is wonderful smokeless fuel that burns for weeks and weeks on end. Good heat and keeps in. Delivered by our coalman. It has not ruined my stove in 11 years and think it will not. A Charnwood Countrymann 4. May ruin some nasty Chinese ones?
    Season wood for at least three years in a wood store to avoid creosote and tar which will ruin your chimney.
  • How much are you paying for your Supertherm, Henry?
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Up here we mostly have coal fires and always have. We keep an old bucket out back garden for hot ash to cool in, then transfer to black bin bags. I wouldn't mind one of these Tippy things though, as husband gets hot embers blown over him when carrying the ashcan outside.
    I have one question and am sorry to hijack this thread.. What's the best way of running a room heater (Parkray Cumbria) as an open fire? We keep this fire on 24/7 most of the year and it's great, but we get power cuts in bad weather and then the pump goes off and the water boils. (I would really prefer an open fire anyway, I can't get used to the doors lol.) Is there a safe way to do this?
  • I'm still confused as to what the advice is regarding burning smokeless coal and wood in a multi burner.

    Can they be burnt together? Or is this a big no no?

    Thanks
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    I chuck the odd bit of wood in FF but the sweep told me you cant really mix both all the time as the throat needs changed for wood. I don't think its dangerous or anything, just that the fire can't draw properly for both at same time. I think wood needs a bit more draught than coal.
  • muckybutt
    muckybutt Posts: 3,761 Forumite
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    I'm still confused as to what the advice is regarding burning smokeless coal and wood in a multi burner.

    Can they be burnt together? Or is this a big no no?

    Thanks

    It depends if you have a liner or not, burning both wood and smokeless can lead to premature failure of the liner due to the corrosiveness of the acid produced from burning both together.

    I swept one a few months back for a customer - she had a liner in a multi fuel, she said it wouldn't draw properly. It had only been swept 6 months before hand so I asked what she had been burning - wood and smokeless came the answer !
    Sure enough the liner had collapsed / perished - only been in 3 years !
    You may click thanks if you found my advice useful
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