Please help - Sold car and its now got a fault, buyer wants refund/bring car back

TradePro

techspec wrote: »

You keep saying 'us' / 'we' when talking about the garage.

Its nothing to do with you is it?

Busted!

If you tell the truth, you may get some useful help here.

If you don't want to tell the truth, and therefore get useful guidance, why did you bother to post in the first place?

A few other bits have confused me - why would anyone travel 300 miles to buy a £1450 'banger'? Surely similar stuff can be bought closer to home?

What make/model is the car? Would £400 not be enough for the garage to repair it, at 'mates rates'? If so, why not do that instead of getting into partial refunds?

spacey2012

I can settle this easily, did the last registered keeper sign the registration certificate with the buyer at the time of sale and was the funds paid to the last registered keeper directly ?
If not the court is likely to rule you as a trader.

paddedjohn

dan_cup wrote: »

They asked my in law to put it on their forecourt and he asked me to put it on eBay to get nationwide views, I don't know the owner personally.

I'm not sure why you think the owner wants nothing to do with it????

The buyer says he doesn't want anything to do with the owner, just the garage. I assume coz he thinks were liable where as he wouldn't have a comeback privately.

I've tried to pass him to the owner but he won't have it, he also won't answer my calls, only responds via texts.



Because my father in law asked me to. He's family, why would I not help family out.

It makes no odds whose car it is, he's asked for help to sell it for the owner.

I have eBay, my FIL doesn't.

And yes I am a nice guy. I get told all the time

Sorry OP, the more I read this thread the more I think that you should just give the bloke a refund. I cant see you winning in court but i can see a lot of bad press for your family garage.

techspec

Agree with above.

You don't use the Ebay account much - so negative feedback obviously not an issue or worry.

But the 'real' owner says you can refund - so may aswell refund.

Protects you and the garage - and the only loser is the 'real' owner.

motorguy

dan_cup wrote: »

Hey with hindsight I won't be doing it again, but yes to me he is a stranger.

I can assure you it's not a trade in.



No it's nothing to do with me. Should I use 'them'?

So. Summarising, your father in law is a motor trader and sometime you sell his trade ins on ebay?

Gee, i think that makes you a motor trader?

TrickyWicky

dan_cup wrote: »

I hear what your saying, but the vehicle is not the garages. it is not on the logbook.

I didn't think garages that were registered traders were entered on the logbook? We bought a car from a guy with a traders licence years ago and he certainly didn't. He had the entire V5 (minus the trader slip) and sold it to us doing the new keeper thing.

TradePro wrote: »

A few other bits have confused me - why would anyone travel 300 miles to buy a £1450 'banger'? Surely similar stuff can be bought closer to home?

Many people do for the right car. If they like that particular car they will travel very far indeed and it doesn't matter how much it costs either. I once travelled 300 miles to buy a £550 banger. It took 13 - 14 hours but we did it.

dan_cup

TradePro wrote: »

Busted!

If you tell the truth, you may get some useful help here.

If you don't want to tell the truth, and therefore get useful guidance, why did you bother to post in the first place?

A few other bits have confused me - why would anyone travel 300 miles to buy a £1450 'banger'? Surely similar stuff can be bought closer to home?

What make/model is the car? Would £400 not be enough for the garage to repair it, at 'mates rates'? If so, why not do that instead of getting into partial refunds?

Lol I've not come on here to tell you guys a load of lies.

It's a land rover discovery v8 so not a common model.

It's not so much the cost of fixing more the fact the guy could have flogged it for 2 weeks, bust something and now wants a return.

techspec wrote: »

Agree with above.

You don't use the Ebay account much - so negative feedback obviously not an issue or worry.

But the 'real' owner says you can refund - so may aswell refund.

Protects you and the garage - and the only loser is the 'real' owner.

I here what your saying it may be the best route.

Chopper_Read

Yeah the guy could have flogged it, did you say what the fault was?

But when you buy from a garage you have certain rights. Had you stayed clear of the premises people here may of had more sympathy for you.

The facts of the matter are whether you know and admit it YOU ARE A TRADER and the thing that gets to people is you are trying to hide behind the claim of it was a private sale. Stop selling cars your family's garage can't shift.

steve-L

I'm just taking what you said at face value.
You have acted in a way a court may well view as a trader.
This may not be your intention.... but that is how it will look.
You have also implicated the garage.

You have got yourself in a right mess if what you say is all true for no profit.
You CAN'T PROVE it was for no profit.
They used your account, you paid the owner ... and everything else aside they could have slipped you a backhander. Proving the contrary
will be very difficult.

If you simply did someone a favour then THEY need to acknowledge that, REFUND the buyer BEFORE you get into serious levels of poo.

It's not so much the cost of fixing more the fact the guy could have flogged it for 2 weeks, bust something and now wants a return.

Yep... unfortunately life isn't fair.

I would in your stated position be telling the friend of my Dad that I did a favour and they need to rectify it ASAP.

photome

OP sorry to say I agree with most others.

If I was the buyer I would think you are a trader and guess small claims would see it the same.

You advertised the car on the say so of the garage owner, knowing nothing about the car or the seller.

If that doesnt make you a trader what are you?