Green Deal MSE Guide Discussion

[Deleted User]

aberant wrote: »

FYI, in England we went from coal fire back boiler with radiators to a full system replacement (i.e. removal of existing pipes / radiators) with condensing combi for free. Apparently, some of the big 6 offer this and some don't. British Gas don't (or didn't in October 2013), Eon do (or did in October 2013).

How does someone else go about getting this?

Don't tell me, ECO scheme for benefit claimants only....

Because if you are in work and not entitled to any benefits, you are instantly rich.

captainhindsight_2

Deleted_User wrote: »

How does someone else go about getting this?

Don't tell me, ECO scheme for benefit claimants only....

Because if you are in work and not entitled to any benefits, you are instantly rich.

Yep ECO is only for people classified as in fuel poverty so in recipt of certain benefits.

Check out the home improvement fund this is open to everyone and will get you upto 1500 cashback for installing a new boiler with a flue gas heat recovery

[Deleted User]

captainhindsight wrote: »

Yep ECO is only for people classified as in fuel poverty so in recipt of certain benefits.

Check out the home improvement fund this is open to everyone and will get you upto 1500 cashback for installing a new boiler with a flue gas heat recovery

£1500 cashback is all well and good but I don't have the money to pay for the rest.

Smiley_Dan

Actually I think it's just the "Home Heating Cost Reduction Obligation" and "Carbon Saving Community Obligation" parts of ECO that are for those on benefits or "vulnerable". "Carbon Emissions Reduction Obligation" are for hard to treat properties regardless of income.

Captainhindsight, any news on the July 1st restart for CERO and CWI?

macavity

oh man, this all seems way too complicated and anyway every time I enquire about insulating the greenhouse I live in (freezing in winter, baking in summer) I'm told "we dont do housing associations" and "they have their own grants" only to be ping-pongged back to the HA who say "we can approve the work but we don't have grants", and so the merry-go-round continues until the next "Free" deal pops up that I dare esquire about.

quite fed up with martin banging on about schemes that only benefit home owners and private renters while i freeze my butt off.

i'd have solar panels/a wind turbine in my back garden/anything to rescue me from the freezing cold of this place in winter but I'm "not eligible".

aberant

See below for the most current guidance r.e. ECO. Only the HHCRO aka Affordable Warmth has eligibility requirements in the form of benefits, which are below. So not only people who are not working! So check CERO and CSCO eligibility. Also, its a bit harsh to be grumpy with Martin for "banging on" about things just because they don't help you as an individual.

(a) Child tax credit and has a relevant income of £15,860 or less.
(b) Income-related employment and support allowance and:
(i) is receiving a work-related activity or support component
OR
(ii) is responsible for a qualifying child
Or
(iii) is in receipt of a qualifying component.
(c) Income-based job seeker’s allowance and:
(i) is responsible for a qualifying child
OR
(ii) is in receipt of a qualifying component.
(d) Income support and:
(i) is responsible for a qualifying child
OR
(ii) is in receipt of a qualifying component.
(e) State pension credit.
(f) Working tax credit and has a relevant income of £15,860 or less and:
(i) is responsible for a qualifying child
OR
(ii) is in receipt of a disability element or severe disability element
OR
(iii) Is aged 60 years or over.
Energy Companies Obligation (ECO): Guidance for Suppliers (Version 1.1a)
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(g) Universal credit66 and:
i. received a net monthly earned income of £1,167 or less in any assessment period in the previous twelve months
AND
ii. meets one of the following criteria:
a. is responsible for a qualifying child or young person
OR
b. has limited capability for work, or limited capability for work and work-related activity
OR
c. is in receipt of disability living allowance
OR
d. is in receipt of personal independence payment.
7.31. Under (b) income-related employment and support allowance, (c) income-based job seeker’s allowance and (d) income support above, “qualifying component” means:
(i) child tax credit which includes a disability or severe disability element
(ii) a disabled child premium
(iii) a disability, enhanced disability or severe disability premium
OR
(iv) a pensioner, higher pensioner or enhanced pensioner premium.

Sorry couldn't post the link - Google "Eco guidance" and find the document from there.

aggypanthus

Deleted_User wrote: »

£1500 cashback is all well and good but I don't have the money to pay for the rest.

Lee, dont you even get tax credits?
I feel sorry for your position, would a new system save you a lot in heating costs?

aggypanthus

Aberant.. so nothing in that list for single working people without kids..? If I read correctly?

Smiley_Dan

He said in his post that those apply to HHCRO only.

But it is ridiculously complicated, the whole thing.

[Deleted User]

aggypanthus wrote: »

Lee, dont you even get tax credits?
I feel sorry for your position, would a new system save you a lot in heating costs?

I currently work under 30 hours so can't get working tax credits. I own my own home so don't have the 'luxury' of a landlord/HA paying out for CH upgrades.

I currently have solid fuel CH and that costs a fortune to run in winter. I did get free loft insulation on the CSCO scheme as that was based on postcode not my circumstances.

I also got the gas connection put in for free also because of my postcode. I have been thinking about going down the Everlasting Boilers/Hasslefree Boilers route.