Green Deal MSE Guide Discussion

Ecodave

The recommendations for switching to gas apply only when mains gas is "available".

I doubt "fracking" will have much of an impact on these considerations, and certainly not for the next few years. If we end up producing more gas than we can consume, wont we just sell it to our neighbours for a higher price? And as gas is now a global commodity, wont this serve to keep the domestic price of gas high?

Perhaps this is better on another thread?

John_Pierpoint

Choosing a heating system will always be a bit like choosing a mobile phone contract.

Over the next 20 years there must be known unknowns plus some unknown unknowns.

With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight all of us will be able to say "I did not that decision 100% right".

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I've had an EPC done today, how long does it take to appear on the Landmark EPC register?

Getting free loft insulation done under CSCO but the surveyor had to do an EPC too. Didn't know that!

gilburton

My situation is this. I'm on Pension Credit.
My (50yr old)warm air central heating system has long since broken down.
I'm relying on a gas fire in the living room and electric heaters in the others.
The house has cavity wall and double glazing.
I've tried to get someone to come out and install a complete central heating system under the ECO/Affordable warmth part of the green deal as I understand I may be entitled?
I've had one assessment but turned down??
All I get is when enquiring is "we don't do that" so is it more a case of "we just want to do the easy stuff like replacing a boiler because there is more profit in it" or is the govt. scheme a waste of time??
Under the old Warm Front scheme I would have been eligible for a grant!!
If anyone knows of someone who will do this,either a national company or locally in Northants please let me know before the winter comes again. thanks

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gilburton wrote: »

My situation is this. I'm on Pension Credit.
My (50yr old)warm air central heating system has long since broken down.
I'm relying on a gas fire in the living room and electric heaters in the others.
The house has cavity wall and double glazing.
I've tried to get someone to come out and install a complete central heating system under the ECO/Affordable warmth part of the green deal as I understand I may be entitled?
I've had one assessment but turned down??
All I get is when enquiring is "we don't do that" so is it more a case of "we just want to do the easy stuff like replacing a boiler because there is more profit in it" or is the govt. scheme a waste of time??
Under the old Warm Front scheme I would have been eligible for a grant!!
If anyone knows of someone who will do this,either a national company or locally in Northants please let me know before the winter comes again. thanks

Basically this. This seems to be also the reason why I can't find any information about replacing solid fuel back boiler central heating for gas central heating on Green Deal.

All the companies that have sprung up just want quick easy boiler swap jobs.

John_Pierpoint

I am a little confused by your posting - what sort of warm air heating has broken down? Are you already on the mains gas supply or is your one gas fire fed from red cylinders in the back yard? There is no point in looking backwards to the relatively generous grants that were abolished last year - the OECD realised that these were financed by stealth taxation and downgraded the UK in terms of its ability to balance its its government spending and its trade with the rest of the world. As a result the current massive debt you are carrying, created for you by your government, is in danger of getting its dirt cheap interest rate being pushed up. Hence the ongoing austerity (and the desperate dash for gas).

Have you tried to read and digest the posting #572 #573 where Richie explains that whole communities can qualify for a grant and I struggle to discover how these communities are defined.
[Discovering that even though I have no gas and no sewerage I definitely don't count as deprived as magic fairy dust somehow brings these facilities to me from a community about a mile away]

Are you in a "deprived rural area" as defined by putting your post code into the system ? If you are, not just you but all your neighbours are entitled to a share of a fund [but the government has done its best to disguise the rights you and your neighbours have to this fund, as it will soon run out if such people try to claim on it].

If you put my sample NE24 1SB post code into a property search web site, you may find estate agents claiming "gas" heating - they mean gas bottle heating. There is also a history of some remarkably cheap terraced housing sales in the community, for those travelling for a job or capable of working from home.

Richie-from-the-Boro

John_Pierpoint, there are anomalies in the design of the system, any system. In a thread at Easter #4here where derivation was discussed you will see that the postcode in this case puts the most frighteningly deprived area in a relatively affluent geographic ward 8 miles away. Of course any assessment would find you not worthy of help as a result of the data-mapping. Conversely armed with that same data, it would take a few minutes only for a householder to prove to an assessor the data-mapping was postcode wrong any supply the correct info for an area.

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I've claimed a free gas pipe connection so that is the first part done. Once that is in I will be looking at getting gas CH on Green Deal.

gilburton

It's mains gas warm air and is over 50 yrs old and the whole estate was built in the sixties with these as standard. Most people have long since changed over to a boiler system but for various reasons we didn't mainly financial. The fan motor was replaced once and when it went again I couldn't get spares so although the system is still there all the wall vents are now covered and the system itself is also covered and will need removing.
I'm not in a deprived area nor is it a terraced house. There is a gas supply to the warm air system and also water as it used to have a separate small boiler/heat exchanger thing that circulated the heated water through the water tank which has an immersion heater as well.
Basically I was doing as much as possible before retiring and the house has cavity wall and double glazing.
I no longer have any money for a new system and am now on pension credit.
Obviously a loan is also out of the question.
My reference to the old scheme was purely about simplicity. The scheme offered a grant. I would have been entitled but I was still working (age 66) and wasn't on Pension Credit then.
Going on about the OECD and balance of payments etc. doesn't matter. It was the scheme then and that was it.
I have seen references saying that "I may be entitled to central heating installation" but so far no one seems interested.
I've had one assessment and been turned down.
I've got Scottish and Southern coming out but I don't hold out much hope as although their adviser said I may be entitled every time someone else rings up they keep asking how old my boiler is and I have to keep repeating I don't have one!!
If I don't qualify despite being on pension credit and no central heating then in my view the scheme isn't working and in my case I'll just have to put on more jumpers lol

west_wales_idiot

I had my green deal assessment done nearly 3 months ago, have struggled to find anyone to quote for external wall insulation and now I am being told by green deal providers that my green deal assessment, occupational assessment and EPC an are no good unless I have the XML data files ?
If I want them to quote they advise me to get hold of the files or pay for a new green deal assessment, my assessor will not release the data to me stating the "RRN" number is all he has to provide to other green deal providers.

Can anyone explain to me what the XML data files are, and suggest any way forward in this situation.