Claiming costs after a court case

AdamD

Apologies if this thread is in the wrong place.

I recently battled the CPS at a magistrates court over driving without insurance. I plead guilty with special considerations and received no punishment (no points, no fine).

Am I entitled to claim back costs for work time lost or travel for appearing in court?

Although my mother did not appear as a witness in the courtroom, it took time to write the witness statement used in court and to prepare for the case - is she eligible to receive work time lost for this time taken?

Any help is much appreciated.

Regards,
Adam

keithdc

AdamD wrote: »

Apologies if this thread is in the wrong place.

I recently battled the CPS at a magistrates court over driving without insurance. I plead guilty with special considerations and received no punishment (no points, no fine).

Am I entitled to claim back costs for work time lost or travel for appearing in court?

Although my mother did not appear as a witness in the courtroom, it took time to write the witness statement used in court and to prepare for the case - is she eligible to receive work time lost for this time taken?

Any help is much appreciated.

Regards,
Adam

!!!!!!... you were guilty of a criminal offence!!

You were lucky to get the punishment that you did- whatever the circumstances, IMO you should have been banned +/- big fine!

gb12345

No.

It has taken me time to write this reply, so please let me have your details so that I can invoice you for the time spent.

AdamD

keithdc wrote: »

!!!!!!... you were guilty of a criminal offence!!

You were lucky to get the punishment that you did- whatever the circumstances, IMO you should have been banned +/- big fine!

Posts like these make me wonder why I post on MSE Forum. You clearly have no grasp of the law surrounding driving without insurance, nor do you know of my personal situation.

I asked about claiming court costs. Not your opinion on my situation.

AdamD

gb12345 wrote: »

No.

It has taken me time to write this reply, so please let me have your details so that I can invoice you for the time spent.

Your reply is useless.

keithdc

AdamD wrote: »

Posts like these make me wonder why I post on MSE Forum. You clearly have no grasp of the law surrounding driving without insurance, nor do you know of my personal situation.

My grasp of the law is that driving without insurance is a criminal offence with a maximum penalty of £5,000 + a driving disqualification + seizure of your vehicle.

You driving without insurance leads to an increase in everyone else's premium.

You were guilty of this criminal offence.

somethingcorporate

Did you actually lose income as a result?

Are you self-employed or a contractor that can prove they earn £x per hour and actually lost money from having to do this?

We all have to fill in forms for stuff, it's just admin of everyday life and it does not automatically entitle us to £50 an hour just to do so. I think you should count yourself lucky that that admin saved your driving license and just chalk it up.

AdamD

keithdc wrote: »

My grasp of the law is that driving without insurance is a criminal offence with a maximum penalty of £5,000 + a driving disqualification + seizure of your vehicle.

You driving without insurance leads to an increase in everyone else's premium.

You were guilty of this criminal offence.

Technically, I am guilty. But as you have proved once again your knowledge of the law is very limited. 'Special considerations' were wholly applicable to the situation and I was (rightfully) given no penalty.

Me driving with or without insurance hasn't increased anyone's premium. I've never had an accident and I've never lodged an insurance claim.

Although the maximum penalty is as you have suggested, case law shows a £200 fine and 6-8 points is the penalty usually given unless a repeat offence.

AdamD

somethingcorporate wrote: »

Did you actually lose income as a result?

Are you self-employed or a contractor that can prove they earn £x per hour and actually lost money from having to do this?

We all have to fill in forms for stuff, it's just admin of everyday life and it does not automatically entitle us to £50 an hour just to do so. I think you should count yourself lucky that that admin saved your driving license and just chalk it up.

Yes - I work on a per hour basis, and I took off Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday due to the case + preparation. Not to mention train/taxi fares to the court. (I am from London, the case was in Preston)

It's not a case of counting myself lucky. It's a question of what I'm legally entitled to.

molerat

What was the court judgement, guilty or not guilty ? I assume guilty as per your plea so why should you be entitled to anything ? If the case was kicked out and the cps were given an earbending by the judge then you may be entitled to something.

giraffe69

You were found guilty but because of whatever the circumstances were no points or fine were applied. I don't think you can get any compensation in this case because it isn't given because you got a minor or no punishment instead of a more major one. Should anyone who gets an absolute discharge be entitled to recompense for their ageing granny spending time writing a letter?
I also don't know why you post here because you have decided in advance you are "entitled" to something and it doesn't really matter what the responses are(even if some are gratuitously rude).