Govt Defeated-Cons Losing Election More Likely

Graham_Devon

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Likewise where do Labour voters show their discontent with poor leadership?

Fair point.

I guess the answer is....they can't, and don't.

Unless they go down the lib dem route...

RJP33

epz wrote: »

Yay, it a victory for the self interest of MPs over democracy.

Regardless of political persuasion the principle of one man one vote is generally accepted as a good one. It becomes pretty meaningless when one persons vote is worth less than someone living in a different area whos MP is elected on a much smaller constituency.

This exactly, it's a vote against democracy but in their interests. If it changes and Scotland leave they're in all sorts of problems.

Still, if the economy recovers by 2015 then it could get very close.

Fella

As I've posted before, in the last 62 years only two Labour leaders have won a General Election: Harold Wilson & Tony Blair.

Considering Ed Miliband is perhaps their least impressive leader either, I certainly wouldn't be calling him a certainty to be the 3rd in 65 years.

toby3000

Fella wrote: »

As I've posted before, in the last 62 years only two Labour leaders have won a General Election: Harold Wilson & Tony Blair.

Considering Ed Miliband is perhaps their least impressive leader either, I certainly wouldn't be calling him a certainty to be the 3rd in 65 years.

And I think that Anthony Eden is the only Conservative party leader to increase their share of the vote. You think Dave is the man to buck the trend?

chris_m

Fella wrote: »

As I've posted before, in the last 62 years only two Labour leaders have won a General Election: Harold Wilson & Tony Blair.

Only four have ever, unless I've miscounted - if you add MacDonald (but not outright in either election) and Attlee

Fella

toby3000 wrote: »

And I think that Anthony Eden is the only Conservative party leader to increase their share of the vote. You think Dave is the man to buck the trend?

Yes he could be. Cameron has consistently been more popular both than his own party and Ed Miliband.


YouGov's latest "best PM" rating this month:


Cameron 33
Miliband 23(-2),
Clegg 7 (+2)


A remarkable achievement considering the level of dissatisfaction with most things. Cameron is an asset not a liability. Miliband is also an asset. To the Tories.

BertieUK

I wonder how the Bookies will come up with the betting odds for the next Election in just over two years time because in reality when you look at the figures that show the results of the last election there are an awful lot of people that did not vote...


Cons with 10.7m
Labs with 8.6m
Libs with 6.8m
Total of votes 26.1

Considering that at the time there were something like 46m people eligible to vote how can anyone judge who will win?

Many people think that the Liberals are almost history after the Coalition so there could be suprises on the horizon.

shortchanged_2

A lot of it will all depend on where the hoards of disaffected Lib Dem voters will go.

Chances are many of them are more likely to go to Labour than the way of the tories.

Treadmill

Billy Bragg voted Lib Dem in the last election, I doubt him and millions of other left leaning voters will for for Clegg again. Cons don't stand a chance of getting a majority, bye bye Dave.

Fella

That's if Clegg is in charge by then. Could be Cable.