Why cant we be charged based on the speed we get?

pickoftheday

Charged based on what speed you actually get? That sounds like an brilliant idea.

cepheus

I have investigated all those things, but it is just the general principle I am talking about. These are the factors which influence speed.

http://www.choose.net/media/guide/features/broadband-speeds-explained.html

jb66

how about you pay line rental depending how long your line is?

cepheus

jb66 wrote: »

how about you pay line rental depending how long your line is?

The thing is that depends on were the substation is built. I live in a crowded part of SE England, not out in the country, it's just by chance I am far away by internet standards. If it was built nearby someone else would get the problem. An obvious solution is to charge for the quality of service you get, this would encourage more companies to offer fiber-optic package bringing the price down.

JenniWR

cepheus wrote: »

The thing is that depends on were the substation is built. I live in a crowded part of SE England, not out in the country, it's just by chance I am far away by internet standards. If it was built nearby someone else would get the problem. An obvious solution is to charge for the quality of service you get, this would encourage more companies to offer fiber-optic package bringing the price down.

ISP's don't offer fibre-optics (or FTTC). They can only supply FTTC where the cabinet has been upgraded (by Openreach).

The reason is that the data is pushed down the line at the same rate, but due to the resistance of copper, it is slower on a longer line. ISP's costs are related to bandwidth, not speed, hence they charge as such.

cepheus

Well whatever the commercial and physical mechanics, only BT offer the faster speeds in my location at the moment, my provider O2 keep saying they will offer this soon but never get seem to get round to it.
http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Home-Broadband-Home-Phone/Fibre-Optic-on-o2/td-p/198762

mattyprice4004

jb66 wrote: »

how about you pay line rental depending how long your line is?

Would that make sense - the shorter the line the less you pay as there's less line to maintain.

So a customer with a 1km line who can receive 16Mbps would pay £5 line rental, and a customer with a 5km line who can barely scrape 2Mbps would pay £25?

yangptangkipperbang

This really is a pointless thread................. Anyone who can muster more than 3 grey cells knows full well why broadband speeds vary so much. If they don't, they really shouldn't waste their (and other's) time by posting on here.
This is akin to saying that you can travel "up to" 70mph on the M1, but as the traffic was so bad that you could only do 30mph you are going to only pay half your road tax.

pickoftheday

yangptangkipperbang wrote: »

This really is a pointless thread................. Anyone who can muster more than 3 grey cells knows full well why broadband speeds vary so much. If they don't, they really shouldn't waste their (and other's) time by posting on here.
This is akin to saying that you can travel "up to" 70mph on the M1, but as the traffic was so bad that you could only do 30mph you are going to only pay half your road tax.

No it's completely different.

With broadband you're paying for a service and if that service falls below par or goes off altogether, due to a fault at their end or an unplanned outage any provider will give you a refund for the time you have been without service - if you ring up and ask for it.

What is wrong with extending this principle to say, an assured minimum BB speed?

If your speed falls below what is necessary to watch a HD on catch-up then your service has been materially affected and you wont be receiving the service you originally signed up for.

I think it's a brilliant idea.

lee111s

It'll never work. Stop discussing it now, you're wasting your time.