Employee Off Site Parking Rights

getmore4less

This will almost certainly turn into a divide and conquer.

If the employees en masse refuse to obay this order the company will have a problem if enough are involved.

They will probably have to pick people off one at a time great for moral anr employee relations.

OP how many %wise or numbers are effected by lack of parking?


I know a company that had a internet, use policy and a manager spotted someone was abusing it so suspended them pending a disiplinary.

Great you may think,

They then did a bit of digging and found another person so had to suspend them.

Then IT got involved

By the end of the week there were so many people suspended the company was getting into serious difficulty.

They stopped, lifted all the suspension and dropped all the disiplinaries.

(The employer allready had serious employee relation issues at all levels due to redundancies and relocation over a number of years)

saintjammyswine

Gilbert2 wrote: »

Indeed, and your input is most welcome.

My council tax also pays toward the police.

However, I may put a clause in my employee's contracts banning them from contacting the police for any reason during work hours just in case the police may then want to call at my work premises and the public may think something untoward and it'll damage my business image!

Which would be unreasonable and challenged.


You may put in whatever clause you like, people accept it or dont. It's up to them whether they accept the terms of the contract whether its the pay, the hours, the dress code or any other clause you choose to include.

Gilbert2

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Which would be unreasonable and challenged.

Exactly, which is essentially how I described the decree in this thread.

There is so much the matter with it that no reasonable employer would enforce it, or could.

For example, as an employer myself, I can tell you now that there is not a chance that I would expand my duty of care to include an employee who happens to be a young woman working shifts who I have ordered to walk half a mile on her own, late at night, during winter because she must park her car that distance away at the very least.

And it would have to be a duty of care owed as it is an employment instruction.

I'm essentially expanding my business premises to include areas, ie roads and pavements used by people I cannot possibly control, where I then, however, owe a duty of care.

No thank you.

That's just one potential problem.


You may put in whatever clause you like, people accept it or dont.

Absolutely, this is a public forum and opinions differ.

I say it is completely unenforceable. Others don't.




It's up to them whether they accept the terms of the contract whether its the pay, the hours, the dress code or any other clause you choose to include.

Again, whether it is reasonable is the point.

And if it isn't, the employer could get sued, or worse.

...................

RichardD1970

Gilbert2 wrote: »

For member migglewan to even make that statement is rather revealing.


Member migglewan is just an alias, either members RichardD 1970, Uncertain or that other fool Pete111.

I'd wager it is probably member Pete111 because I had to block him to spare me the nonsense he posts.

Although it could just as well be the other pair.

Who cares? They certainly do!;)

Thought you had put me on ignore as well? And no, migglewan is not me :rotfl: I would say you care as you are the one speculating about it.

I see you are spouting more arrogant rubbish and resorting to personal insults of those who disagree, very mature.

As for the point that it is legal to park there, no one is or can dispute that.

BUT, please consider:-

In working hours I am not allowed to use my personal mobile phone, It is not illegal to use my phone, but I will be disciplined if I do.

In working hours I am only allowed to eat in certain places at certain times.
It is not illegal to eat where or when I like, but I will be discipline if I eat somewhere not designated (indeed someone was sacked)

In working hours I have to wear a specific uniform.
It is not illegal for me to wear what I like (within reason ), but I will be discipline if I turn up for work incorrectly dressed.

Whether or not requiring employees not to park in specific streets is reasonable is open to debate and will depend on how much the business needs good neighbour/community relations.

For example, if the company p1sses of the neighbours and then at a later date wants to expand and needs planning permission the neighbours are more likely to try and block it or cause other problems.

yvonne13_2

getmore4less wrote: »

The next course of action is for all emplyees to club together and pick another street not on the excluded list and all park there, eventualy they wont be able to park anywhere.


The employer should be encouraging(incentives), public transport, car sharing, cycling, improved parking density(double park), shifts that allow space swapping etc. rather than imposing a no local roads policy.

They need to fix the real problem not the symptoms.

OP can you confirm what alternatives your employer has suggested?

Bluemeanie_2

dizzyrascal wrote: »

Of course it is! Why do you think that all the roads near to large hospitals and universities only have "Residents only parking". You have to have a balance and if a large employer is upsetting the neighborhood then the council may well step in to restrict parking so that is is fair to the residents.
How would you feel if you had to park 2 or 3 streets away and had to carry 10 bags of shopping back to your house with a baby and a couple of toddlers in tow!!

That would be down to your poor judgement when you CHOOSE to live/buy a house with no off road car parking. You do not buy the section of road outside your house (unless a private road) so unless there are specific restrictions like DYL or residents parking, tough. If you don't like it, petition the council/MP for residents parking or move.

RichardD1970

Bluemeanie wrote: »

That would be down to your poor judgement when you CHOOSE to live/buy a house with no off road car parking. You do not buy the section of road outside your house (unless a private road) so unless there are specific restrictions like DYL or residents parking, tough. If you don't like it, petition the council/MP for residents parking or move.

Sorry but that is an extremely arrogant view, that everyone can choose exactly where to live. And even if you can a very lot of older houses and streets have no off street parking because they were built before cars were invented.

dizzyrascal

Actually I have a drive but I get blocked in a lot by the parents and staff from the nursery. A nursery that was not in existence when I bought the house so was not something that came into the equation.
If you want to be part of a civilised society then there has to be some give and take and everyone takes some responsibility, or you have anarchy. I believe that you should treat people as you would like to be treated. So if someone asks you to be considerate to your neighbours, it really shouldn't be difficult to comply.

Bluemeanie_2

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Sorry but that is an extremely arrogant view, that everyone can choose exactly where to live. And even if you can a very lot of older houses and streets have no off street parking because they were built before cars were invented.

You do choose where you live. Last time I checked this was a free country!! I would never buy or rent somewhere without off road car parking. I have weighed up the pros and cons and decided this isn't a sacrifice/hassle I'd be willing to make. You cannot make a poor choice and moan about it, when you have no right to it. The highway is public and as long as there's no parking restrictions and the vehicle is taxed/insured etc it has as much right to park there as anyone else. Regardless of whether or not it's outside your house. The sense of entitlement is irrelevant.

It is true you do get older houses with no off road parking - not sure why that's relevant? Just don't choose to live there!

RichardD1970

Bluemeanie wrote: »

You do choose where you live. Last time I checked this was a free country!! I would never buy or rent somewhere without off road car parking. I have weighed up the pros and cons and decided this isn't a sacrifice/hassle I'd be willing to make. You cannot make a poor choice and moan about it, when you have no right to it. The highway is public and as long as there's no parking restrictions and the vehicle is taxed/insured etc it has as much right to park there as anyone else. Regardless of whether or not it's outside your house. The sense of entitlement is irrelevant.

It is true you do get older houses with no off road parking - not sure why that's relevant? Just don't choose to live there!

Sorry, but that is total rubbish. You might be in a position to pick and choose the exact specification of your house, but a lot of people can't. What about those in social housing? How many people choose to live in grotty blocks of flats? Or people on lower incomes who have to choose somewhere affordable?
Or don't these people exist in your world?