Employee Off Site Parking Rights

Pete111

Gilbert2 wrote: »

Oh get over yourself!

How on earth can you have the nerve to bracket your job with a professional career?

Your'e some bloke in a stuffy office who clearly has delusions of grandeur! There's plenty with your skills down the job centre who could fill your boots tomorrow.....

.....and do a better job by the sound of it!:D

Possibly because I've done it since my early 20's and been paid for it ever since? You understand the meaning of the words 'Professional ' and 'Career' right?

Tell me good sir - what do you do?

PS My office isn't stuffy...It's in one of the nicest parts of our fair capital and looks out over a lovely square. It's a rather nice day today as well.

dizzyrascal

I think there there are some on here who are missing the point.
Parking on residential streets may be within the law and where it is only done by a few individuals who work in small local shops or banks (for instance) then it can be overlooked and classed as normal parking. But, if the vast majority of available local parking is taken up by a large employer, then the residents and the council are entitled to complain if it has a detrimental effect on their lives. Whilst no individual owns the street or is entitled to park right outside their door, most people expect to park within a reasonable distance from their home. If the residents frequently have to walk a fair distance from house to car then it won’t be long before people start to campaign for residents only parking. After all, how would you like it!!
There are other issues to. If you start a new business and need planning permission you will now have to have sufficient parking for your staff (and customers if relevant) before you will gain the required planning consent. This worked in our favour recently as Tesco wanted to put one of their small shops near to us but they only had 12 parking spaces. Tesco claimed that everyone would walk to the shop but the council didn't buy that and their application failed. We also have a small nursery that has no parking of its own and the parents parking are causing great concern in the neighbourhood. Even though the dropping off is short lived, residents are regularly getting blocked in or can’t get up the lane due to double parking. A new doctor’s surgery also opened up in the same street a while ago and they had to have considerable parking for staff and patients before the planning was given.
Some of the posters on here seem to assume that it will only be one business that requires the on-street parking but as you can see from my examples, in some areas there is a high demand for parking and it’s nice to have a bit of give and take rather than stamping your feet and doing it anyway.
I suspect that this company is aware that there are issues with the parking (perhaps they have expanded recently) and are doing all they can to keep the peace. It doesn't seem an unreasonable request to me and I wouldn't have a problem complying with it, if I were asked to.

Pete111

dizzyrascal wrote: »

I think there there are some on here who are missing the point.
Parking on residential streets may be within the law and where it is only done by a few individuals who work in small local shops or banks (for instance) then it can be overlooked and classed as normal parking. But, if the vast majority of available local parking is taken up by a large employer, then the residents and the council are entitled to complain if it has a detrimental effect on their lives. Whilst no individual owns the street or is entitled to park right outside their door, most people expect to park within a reasonable distance from their home. If the residents frequently have to walk a fair distance from house to car then it won’t be long before people start to campaign for residents only parking. After all, how would you like it!!
There are other issues to. If you start a new business and need planning permission you will now have to have sufficient parking for your staff (and customers if relevant) before you will gain the required planning consent. This worked in our favour recently as Tesco wanted to put one of their small shops near to us but they only had 12 parking spaces. Tesco claimed that everyone would walk to the shop but the council didn't buy that and their application failed. We also have a small nursery that has no parking of its own and the parents parking are causing great concern in the neighbourhood. Even though the dropping off is short lived, residents are regularly getting blocked in or can’t get up the lane due to double parking. A new doctor’s surgery also opened up in the same street a while ago and they had to have considerable parking for staff and patients before the planning was given.
Some of the posters on here seem to assume that it will only be one business that requires the on-street parking but as you can see from my examples, in some areas there is a high demand for parking and it’s nice to have a bit of give and take rather than stamping your feet and doing it anyway.
I suspect that this company is aware that there are issues with the parking (perhaps they have expanded recently) and are doing all they can to keep the peace. It doesn't seem an unreasonable request to me and I wouldn't have a problem complying with it, if I were asked to.

You make several extremely sensible points that reflect the actuality of the overall situation.

I would like to apologise for the flaming you are about to get from various self appointed yet screamingly unrealistic internet warriors.

dizzyrascal

Pete111 wrote: »

You make several extremely sensible points that reflect the actuality of the overall situation.

I would like to apologise for the flaming you are about to get from various self appointed yet screamingly unrealistic internet warriors.

Thanks Pete
I'm expecting it!!

Gilbert2

Pete111 wrote: »

Gilbert. Why do you think the council approached the company in the first place? Because of resident complaints. What do you think a council does if it has an identified parking issue that is not subsequently resolved? That's right! It resolves the problem (and raises revenue) by installing residents parking. If you refuse to believe this as (at teh very least) a very strong possibility then your grasp of reality is even more limited than I imagined.

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*Sigh*

Absolutely nowhere has it been revealed by the OP that the council approached the company in the first place regarding this issue!

It is simply a resident concern made known to the company.;)

Despite this obvious error, you ridicule some of us who did read it properly yet you are so obstinate and ignorant to have the nerve to say you are still correct!

Do you have any creditability at all?

How can you expect members to debate with you seriously?

Also, despite it not even being a council concern, as of yet at least, the council cannot simply decide what roads will become restricted without having to go through legal process and procedure.

Even then, that road may never be restricted if the council are unsuccessful.

I told you previously, I only post on issues I know about.

Unlike you who think you know everything.;)

Pete111

Gilbert2 wrote: »

*Sigh*

Absolutely nowhere has it been revealed by the OP that the council approached the company in the first place regarding this issue!

It is simply a resident concern made known to the company.;)

Despite this obvious error, you ridicule some of us who did read it properly yet you are so obstinate and ignorant to have the nerve to say you are still correct!

Do you have any creditability at all?

How can you expect members to debate with you seriously?

Also, despite it not even being a council concern, as of yet at least, the council cannot simply decide what roads will become restricted without having to go through legal process and procedure.

Even then, that road may never be restricted if the council are unsuccessful.

I told you previously, I only post on issues I know about.

Unlike you who think you know everything.;)

Oh yes, where I work we are always making difficult decisions that negatively affect great swathes of our workforce because of a random local resident making a complaint or two.....

For god sakes pull your head out of the sand man.

I'll make you a wager - Either the staff stop parking there or the council will announce a move to residents parking within the year.

Gilbert2

Pete111 wrote: »

Possibly because I've done it since my early 20's and been paid for it ever since? You understand the meaning of the words 'Professional ' and 'Career' right?

Tell me good sir - what do you do?

PS My office isn't stuffy...It's in one of the nicest parts of our fair capital and looks out over a lovely square. It's a rather nice day today as well.

A HR bod is not a professional career. It is a job in an office, that's it, capiche?

You have nowhere near the training of the real professions, law, medic and clergy.

Even after 13 years of your spectacular career I'm none too impressed when you can overlook a salient point regarding this thread that I pointed out above in another post!

You need another 13 years by the look of it to get up to speed!;)

What do I do?

I have my own modest business and have done for the last 11 years.

I create my own wealth, I don't need to rely on an employer to do that for me.

I also wealth create for 9 other people, all through my efforts.

I turn over in less than a quarter what you earn in a year.

Not boasting, as you clearly wanted to freely give your earnings.

ps All offices to me are stuffy, stuffed up bods.;)

dizzyrascal

HR professionals have a Chartered Status with their CIPD qualifications so I think that everyone can understand that HR is a profession AND a career.

Gilbert2

Pete111 wrote: »

For god sakes pull your head out of the sand man.

I'll make you a wager - Either the staff stop parking there or the council will announce a move to residents parking within the year.

No, acknowledge you were wrong.

You have based your tirade of nonsense on not even reading what was posted in the first place.

Well, let's just leave it to other members to decide shall we?

You have zero creditability and I bet you don't like it!

I'm off now, to HR my staff!:rotfl:

Pete111

Gilbert2 wrote: »

A HR bod is not a professional career. It is a job in an office, that's it, capiche?

You have nowhere near the training of the real professions, law, medic and clergy.

Even after 13 years of your spectacular career I'm none too impressed when you can overlook a salient point regarding this thread that I pointed out above in another post!

You need another 13 years by the look of it to get up to speed!;)

What do I do?

I have my own modest business and have done for the last 11 years.

I create my own wealth, I don't need to rely on an employer to do that for me.

I also wealth create for 9 other people, all through my efforts.

I turn over in less than a quarter what you earn in a year.

Not boasting, as you clearly wanted to freely give your earnings.

ps All offices to me are stuffy, stuffed up bods.;)

Ummm the 1800's called. They want their mindset back.....

Hurrah for you running a business Gilbert (I trust you provide ample parking for your people?)

I note you use turnover however...one tends not to be able to spend that quite as freely as profit....