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Acronis True Image & USB problem - wont boot.

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So i had a Kingston DataTraveler 101 16GB USB stick. I used Acronis True Image Home 2011 to make it bootable & to install the backup on it.

Despite the fact that the backup & boot setting was less than 16GB, in fact it's only about 14GB, it wouldn't install to this USB stick as it kept running out of space.

KEY: If i JUST made the USB stick bootable (& put no .tib backup on there) then the USB stick would boot fine - no problems.

So i bought a new 32GB Kingston DataTraveler 101 USB stick, thinking this would solve the problem. It doesn't.

It wont install the backup to the USB stick at all. It keeps erroring with 5 minutes to go, 20 minutes to go etc.

So just now i decided to make the USB stick bootable to see if it would do this as a minimum. It wont even do that. Acronis says it makes it bootable, but when i restart the laptop & then choose to boot to the USB stick - it doesn't. It keeps sending me back to the boot media page (where i can select CD ROM drive, HDD, USB stick).

Not sure if it means anything or whether it's just the design - but the black 16GB stick has no light when plugged in, the 32GB purple stick lights up.

I've just formatted both USB sticks as i type this & made them both bootable with Acronis but put no backup file on there. JUST bootable...

Currently at the boot screen with the 16GB USB stick & it's listed as "USB HDD: Kingston DT 101 G2" & when i select it i get "Starting Acronis Loader" & all is well.

I do the same for the 32GB stick & when at the boot menu it only says "USB HDD: USB Disk". No mention of Kingston DT 101 at all. I select it all the same & it just returns me back to the exact same screen.


What i want to achieve: Having the USB stick bootable AND having the backup file on there too, so that it's an all-in-one.

Help?
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  • Lucero_2
    Lucero_2 Posts: 283 Forumite
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    It's because your USB stick is formatted as FAT which not only reads the maximum disk space differently but has a limit on the individual maximum file size (4GB). If you format is as NTFS then you'll be able to use the full 16Gb without issue.
  • Lucero wrote: »
    It's because your USB stick is formatted as FAT which not only reads the maximum disk space differently but has a limit on the individual maximum file size (4GB). If you format is as NTFS then you'll be able to use the full 16Gb without issue.
    Nonsense it will need to be FAT32 formatted for Acronis to boot it, If it is NTFS then the acronis loader won't work , it's based on Linux (kernel 2.4 I think)
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  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    Yes - i had to break the backup files into 4GB sections.

    But based on what you're saying, surely i shouldn't be able to get to like 12-13GB the way i can? When backing up on the 16GB stick, i can use most of the 16GB, it's just that final squeeze i can't put on.

    Also, the Acronis True Image boot option will only put it on a FAT32 stick. If i format the USB stick as NTFS then Acronis wont make it bootable with the Acronis Loader.

    I've tried making the 16GB stick bootable in FAT32, then converting the file system to NTFS & THEN putting the .tib backup on there ...... but then Acronis True Image Boot Loader no longer works.



    EDIT: All of this is separate from the fact that the 32GB stick seemingly does not work. The laptop moot menu doesn't recognize it as a Kingston stick the way it does the 16GB stick. It doesn't boot Acronis Boot Loader the way it will with the 16GB stick. I've only just bought both as brand new too - according to their eBay listing.
  • Does the 32GB work on Windows ? and is it 32Gb (well 29G ish). I use Xboot for mine (acronis recovery) but my backup wont fit on a 16/32/64 size disk. Xboot is useful for loading many different recovery systems too, but lets see if there is a problem with your Kingston 32gb disk first, there is somewhere a usb test utility I will dig out the thread/location
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  • closed wrote: »
    Yep that should work for booting too, for testing the stick try http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html
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  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    Thanks. I'll try that out now.

    Bit of an update:

    I made the 16GB stick bootable. I then made a disc image backup, but to the C drive. I split this into sections no greater than 4000mb (so it gave me 4 files - 3 at the maximum & 1 around 2GB).

    I then copied these files to the 16GB stick ......... and it finally worked.

    I then went to the laptop boot menu to see if it'd boot this time ...... it did. All is well.

    Or so i thought. When i went to recover the disk, my USB stick was not listed as a drive. The C drive was, the CD drive was. My USB drive however was not. I took it out, put it in a different USB slot & hit refresh - no luck.


    Maybe what i want to achieve isn't achievable?
  • Quick question, are using a usb3 port?? try usb2 only.
    or When it boots save a system report
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  • Oh and which version of True Image is it
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  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    Quick question, are using a usb3 port?? try usb2 only.
    or When it boots save a system report
    I was (using USB 3.0). I've since formatted the stick & trying again, this time making it bootable AND saving the .tib file at the same time in portions of 4000mb max.
    Why would using USB 3.0 port make a difference? I'll try 2.0 next time.
    Also, how do i save a system report?
    Oh and which version of True Image is it
    Nine_Lives wrote: »
    I used Acronis True Image Home 2011
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